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1982 Yamaha XJ750 Maxim Clutch issue

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by LeClairerog, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. LeClairerog

    LeClairerog 1982 XJ 750 Maxim

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    I have a 1982 Yamaha XJ750 Maxim that does not want to roll when I pull in the hand clutch. The cable is adjusted out almost as far as it will go and it moves freely. However when I try to roll it with the clutch pulled in it stays in gear. Any ideas what it could be?
     
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    Stumplifter Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean by 'the clutch cable is adjusted out almost as far as it will go'?

    The cable should be set per the manual with the correct amount of free play. If memory serves me it is about 1/8".

    Was the bike functioning properly prior to this?
    Can you start the bike?
    Does it shift when you are riding the bike?
     
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    rocs82650 Well-Known Member

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    Free play is the distance between the clutch perch and the handle when the handle is pulled before the clutch is engaged. When the handle is at rest (not being pulled) the free play is 0mm.

    Gary H.

    Edited for clarity. Thanks Stump.
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    Has the bike been sitting along time? Your clutch plates could be rusted and or damaged. Gas in the oil can cause clutch problems also.
     
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    Stumplifter Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps I am confused - certainly don't want to confuse the OP.
    I thought that when you grab the handle that there is a small gap between perch and handle prior to 'engagement' to insure that the cable doesn't have any tension on it when at rest (similar to throttle cable setup).
     
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    LeClairerog 1982 XJ 750 Maxim

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    The clutch is about an 1/8th inch out on the adjustment (two threads). Based on your statements I'd say it is the factory settings. The clutch plates appear to be frozen and I know what my first winter project will be.

    I just picked up the bike in August. It has been in storage for two years and needs a lot of work. The work order to get up road ready is growing pretty quick.

    There has not been any attempt to get it started.
    Yes, it has been sitting in storage for a couple years.
     
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    LeClairerog 1982 XJ 750 Maxim

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    It's two threads out or about 1/8th inch. From your description it appears to still be the factory setting. Thanks.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    You are correct. There is supposed to be 3mm of free play at the lever.
     
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    rocs82650 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. The small gap is the free play. I was saying there is no free play when the handle is at rest. Maybe i shouldn't have said that as not to cause confusion. Thanks.

    Gary H.
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    When bikes sit for along time. The clutch is half in oil and the other half is not. This can cause the clutch not to release because the clutch plates get all funky.
    Plan on overhauling the clutch for sure. Even if you were to bust it loose it will probably start slipping under load anyway.
     
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    LeClairerog 1982 XJ 750 Maxim

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    Great advice and that is definitely part of my plans. Thanks.
     
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    does the bike run?
    if so put it up on center stand add a few ounces of sea foam see if it loosens the gummy crud from the plates.
    got a manual? start a conversation with me and i will send you one. its a pdf haynes on a cd
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    The new clutch material is so much better, it makes a world of difference.
     
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    i agree
    but this is a new to him project and he needs to
    change oil and filter
    Choosing Oil for a Wet Clutch Motorcycle
    evaluate the motor with a compression test and valve clearance check and reshim if needed.
    remove and clean carbs to the
    IN THE CHURCH OF CLEAN standards

    see if it will start

    before he starts to spend money on
    new fuse box
    front wheel bearings,
    rebuilding calipers, master cylinder
    new brake lines
    rear break shoes rear wheel bearings
    check/replace headstock bearings
    new clutch plates
    new tires

    he should do all the things on this list before spending money as well


    clean all electrical connectors
    test signal/running lights, tail lights
    test coils
    test pick ups
    ohm out and inspect alternator clean if nessary and check brushes to see if they need replacmentbasicly check out ALL systems on bike before spending a dime.
    so he will see how deep his pockets have to be

    I would and did buy a battery first to help test wiring
    next was glass fuse holder replacment
    all while soaking and cleaning carbs and getting a list of parts needed for the carbs

    and reading
    The Information Overload Hour


    a little more light reading
    THE SECRET LIFE OF CARBURETORS

    Something New, Something Naked

    TALKIN' TECH: Various thoughts on various issues

    The Ultimate Relay, Switch, Sensor, and Diodes Guide












     
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    rocs82650 Well-Known Member

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    After this is done and it is determined the mill is viable the guesstimate cost is between $600 ~ $800 to complete the road worthy restoration at Xjbikes standards.

    Gary H.
     
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    LeClairerog 1982 XJ 750 Maxim

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    Thanks, I have both manuals. I appreciate the offer.
     

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