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cornering problems

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by darren ditmar, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. darren ditmar

    darren ditmar Member

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    anyone have a suggestion on how not to run out of front tire when leaning over in the corner i had the front tire slip on me yesterday from leaning over so far in a corner ( my foot was dragging on the ground) the tire is a 110-90-16 i have a rim that is a 17 not sure if that would help though or if there is something else i can do to get more lean angle without slipping
     
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    slow down?
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    How long have you been riding?
    What tire?
    How old is it?
    What road conditions?
    What speeds?
    Have you taken a riding course of any kind?
     
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    Answers to all of these are important. Old could be bad. Brand new also could have it's problems if there's anything on the surface of the tire. I put two brand new Michelin Commander II's on mine. They were great initially, but it didn't take long to get out there after a rain (dry road, but must have been a hint of moisture still there...) and well... let's just say it was not confidence inspiring in the curves... heh...

    There could have been residue from the factory, grime from shipping, maybe something from the mount//balancing... who knows.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Plus....Eugene....moss does grow on the roads in places.
     
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    i was heading back roads to cottage grove and i was with two other people trying to keep up (they had an r6 and r1) i was doing about 50 to 55 on 20 and 25 mph corners the tires are ok ad the road was ok i have been riding on the street for a little over a year and on the dirt since i was 3. arrowmax gt501f is the front tire. i did take a riding course that is mandatory to get your endorsement in oregon little over a year ago but i ride all weather every day so its not that i wasnt experience enough in the corner. i do about 1500 to 2000 miles a month and have gone through a few tires this one is not brand new but its doesnt seem old enough to be slipping. would a 17 in rim corner better?
     
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    down shift and wheelie around the corners
     
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    lol ya that would be great i can stand it up in first and ride it out i was able to shift mid wheelie and keep going. best feeling on the thing i have had yet
     
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    or you could ride with flipflop sandals, that would let you know when the lean limit is reached
     
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    did you ever notice it is not the first dog running across the street chasing a cat that gets hit?
    do not let your ego dictate how you ride. I know the reviews say you can lean until the frame is scraping the ground but it is not a good practice.
    that part of your tire has had very little contact with the road and could still be a little slick, and you do not want to have any contact with the road.
    over confidance is a bad thing. you now know how fast you can not go into those corners. maybe this summer you should take the advanced riders course
     
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    are your rims non stock?
    if its a maxim it is a 19 inch tire up front and 16 inch on rear
    seca is 19 inch tire up front and 18 inch on rear
     
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    what my point was is i was wondering things i can do to the bike to allow it to be able to lean more than it is able to now.
     
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    so i have a yx600 radian front rim but i have an xj550 rim that should fit
     
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    if it leaned over any farther, what would you do with your feet?
     
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    i could move the pegs if need be but the reason is so that i have more traction in a full lean so that it is not as easy to slip
     
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    Learn the limits of the machine, take a track-riding course, and quit trying to keep up with supersports machines that have 30 years of additional development.

    If you want to corner faster you should be learning how to hang-off and keep the bike more upright. You should also consider that there are very few cornering situations on the street where you can be at the traction limit and not be going well over the speed limit (there are exceptions, but not many). There is a saying about old pilots; it applies to motorcyclists too.

    On a positive note: lowsides hurt less than highsides (usually).
     
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    and his bike's
     
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    I have a reading list for you.

    Proficient Motorcyling (1 and 2), by David L. Hough

    A Twist of the Wrist (1 and 2), by Keith Code

    At the very least get both of the first title in each series.

    One more thing: you have a good tire, but it's a sport-touring tire with the emphasis on touring. I'll make an assumption; your friends are not running tires that have anything to do with touring, and everything to do with sport.
     
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    one is a rain sport tire and the other on the r1 was taking it easy in cruise mode
     
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    and im hoping to get a novice licence this year for racing in portland but i dont want to have to do the school on this bike
     

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