Is a hotdog in a bun a sandwich?

Please can you all help me with this very important question.

Assume that I'm talking about them when in a bun!

 

In a bun- yes.

Just a hot dog... well that is just a meat tube. Or slice it into coins and mix it in your Mac & Cheese. Or baked beans (with bacon of course).

 

In just your normal hot dog hun, if say no. If you butterfly'd the dog and put it between 2 slices of bread, I'd say yes

 

Let's solve this here and now. Does ham and cheese become less of a sandwich when served on a kaiser bun? No. Therefore eliminating bun based hot dogs simply due to the bun is a fallacy. We must dig deeper.
Is the vertical orientation of the slit the deciding factor? For this we must harken back to the days of yore when Subway made trench style cuts in the top of the bun. A sandwich empire was built upon this bun format, complete with "Sandwich Artists". Therefore the bun orientation cannot deny hot dogs their sandwich status either.
So what is it that makes a sandwich? What is the essence of sandwich. To me, a bread product as a vehicle to deliver tasty goodness is what defines sandwichness. Hot dogs fill this requisite completely, thus hot dogs are sandwich. However, my definition of sandwich is quite broad, encompassing things such as tacos and pita wraps. I welcome debate on the subject.
Did I mention that I love sandwiches? I consider myself a sandwich philosopher. They're the best thing since sliced bread. I have a tattoo of a hamburger on my leg, along with a bottle of Heineken and a pie. It's delicious! Thanks for the thread, Ribo! Can we be friends? Your brain is where my brain is. Excelsior!

 

does anyone ever say, hotdog sandwich or burger sandwich ? go in your local hotdog joint and order a hotdog sandwich with chili and onions. i dare ya
all things wrapped in bread may be loosely related but man is loosely related to chimpanzees too.
if i butter my toast and fold it in half, does that make it a toasted butter sandwich?
if a taco is a sandwich, what is a burrito? i guess pizza is just a open face tomato sandwich.
so no a hotdog is a hotdog.

 

I eat my Sloppy Joe's on Hot Dog buns. They aren't really sloppy anymore, but you don't call them Sloppy Joe Dogs.

 

From epicurious.com:
"A hamburger, beefburger or burger is a sandwich consisting of one or more cooked patties of ground meat, usually beef, placed inside a sliced bread roll or bun. "
Therefore the hamburger argument is moot.
No, we are not chimps, but we are both primates. Hot dogs aren't Reubens, but both are sandwiches. The "sandwich" is the family, "hotdog" is the species.
How about a dictionary link:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...MBMcQFgh2MA0&usg=AOvVaw3uWaeIP7sGILaoVc9tj2b9
Only a hotdog fanatic would try to elevate it beyond sandwich status, as though sandwiches were somehow beneath hotdogs.

 

PS I'm surprised that this thread hasn't gone in another direction. Weiners, buns, Matti, it's a recipe for a dirty sandwich!

 

As the author I should probably not have an opinion on the matter but I'm in the sandwich camp. Strangely @Polock after firmly setting himself up in the "No" camp chose to be spineless in the vote.

 

well the first one is just wrong, second one, i don't know you well enough to call you a idiot and i kind of liked how the third was worded.
if you look here
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sandwich
it clearly states two slices of bread, so Chitwood has it right, and you............ BunBoys (you know who you are)are wrong!
one of the rules here is all threads must pertain to motorcycles, so
when storing your bike this winter, check the bags for old, forgotten about hotdogs, now we're legal

 

Tacos aren't a sandwich, because they're not listed on the menu under Tortas.

 

But if the bun tears....(as it always does).

 

A hotdog is a hotdog. I wouldn't put peanut butter and jelly on a bun. Well unless I had to.

 

FYI - I voted "No" it isn't a sandwich, but you are NOT an idiot...

 

I have a tool storage bin on the Rebel which is the exact size to fit a jumbo hotdog sandwich.

 

From polock's Oxford definition:
"Something that is constructed like or has the form of a sandwich"
Now is seems that we must debate the meaning of "like". Does anyone feel that a hotdog buns is not like a sandwich simply due to the fact that it isn't sliced all the way through? As far as I can tell, that is the only difference between flat sandwiches and tube sandwiches.

The bun argument holds no water. A Subway sandwich is a sandwich and it is on a bun. A quick Google search for "bun sandwich" brings me loads of recipes and hundreds of pictures of sandwiches.

 

Look beyond the meat and bread. Do you put chili and onions on a roast beef sandwich? Do you use relish on a pastrami? Do you put lettuce on your hot dog?

 

From Merriam Webster:
Definition:
1) two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between
2) one slice of bread covered with food.

Whatever food you place on or in the bread is not what defines the sandwich. I don't put lettuce on any of my sandwiches. Does this mean they are no longer sandwich? Chilli and onions on a rosbif samitch sounds delicious. Condiments are not what defines sandwich.

Is it sad that I'm more engaged in this discussion than I ever have been in 13 years at my job?

 

I've been in my job more than 13 years and I wouldn't put a hot dog in my mouth ever again coz they're {foul}

 

No it's clearly a fundamental issue that needs to be addresses for the future of all and I applaud your commitment to the fight.

 

I guess that depends on the quality of the hotdog. I have to admit to buying the occational one late at night after a beer or 8 but at home I buy these http://applegate.com/products/searc...MI6rCGoryJ1wIVjLbACh0sEwGeEAAYAiAAEgJ6ZvD_BwE

 

heathen

nowhere does the word sandwich appear
is my folded toast still a sandwich? but if i put a hotdog
in the fold it is. since i'm spineless and don't have a opinion, i'm getting confused

 

confuse me more, what about corn dogs on a stick ?

 

wiki
A sandwich is a food typically consisting of vegetables, sliced cheese or meat, placed on or between slices of bread, or more generally any dish wherein two or more pieces of bread serve as a container

by the wiki definition a hot dog in a bun is not a sandwich unless you slice the bun fully through.

a pizza folded in half becomes a calzone

if you need 2 slices of bread ask yourself does your local grinder, sub shop sell if the loaf of bread is not cut in two

 

If it's on a bun, it's a Bunwich.

 

I don't believe the wiki definition is complete, as it completely ignores the open faced samitch.
Polock, this doesn't say sandwich anywhere either:



According to the American Heritage Dictionary, a sandwich is "two or more slices of bread with a filling such as meat or cheese placed between them, or a partly split long or round roll containing a filling."
I don't know how many more definitions I need to provide to solve this. I have given at least 4, more than enough for a conviction in any court of law.

 

The sandwich is one of the many gifts given to humanity by the English.

German immigrants introduced the hamburger and frankfurter to America near the end of the 19th century.

Due to the hostility between the English and German's during that period, the English withheld the 'sandwich' moniker out of jealousy and instead chose the term 'dog' as the German's were well known to be eaters of dog meat both in America and in Germany.

As the German's have been on their best behavior now for over 70 years I believe it is time to acknowledge the hotdog's sandwich heritage and accept its contribution to the sandwich family.

Also, if you fold a piece of bread in half then you have yourself a 'butty' which is a species in the sandwich family.

 

The problem is that the definitions are biased by the authors opinion.

We need to look at the historical context to find the truth behind this controversy.

Or just use some common sense because the hotdog is clearly a sandwich and to say otherwise is just foolish.

 

I believe the matter to be closed - solid work Paul

 

Dammit, I provide 4 credible, citable sources, and no one accepts them. One guy comes along with unconfirmed stories and the issue is put to rest? I'm not angry cuz I disagree, I'm mad cuz I worked too hard!

Just kidding Paul. I liked the lesson. However, my research indicates an American source for the name of the hot dog.

"Sports cartoonist T. A. "Tad" Dorgan, who caricatured German figures as dachshunds in the early 1900s, generally earns credit for popularizing the term hot dog because he could not spell dachshund. His talking sausage cartoons denigrated the cheap wieners sold at Coney Island, crassly suggesting they contained dog meat. It was such bad publicity that in 1913, the Chamber of Commerce actually banned the use of "hog dog" from signs on Coney Island, though the term had earned entry into the Oxford English Dictionary in 1900."

 

from Merriam Websters dictionary which is the most trusted Dictionary

a :two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between
b one slice of bread covered with food

according to Merriam Websters a hotdog is a sandwich

 

Ok, you win!

 

No, but I do put chili and onions on a chiliburger, which is a type of hamburger sandwich.