quarantine thoughts

This is a good time to work on that spare carb rack, i'm no expert but i doubt corona lives very long on your hands with gas and carb cleaner.

wear your helmet in the grocery store, it won't filter anything but people will keep their distance

social distancing is like riding with a bunch of Harleys with open pipes, why would you want to do that? just pass them.

think maybe 10% ethanol is as good as 90% isopropyl ? it's cheaper and smells just as bad

if you get a face full of carb cleaner while clearing the enrichment well, consider it a blessing, just don't rub your eyes. take it like a man

wash your hands like you just changed your chain and sprokets

remember this is going to take a while, just like bleeding your brakes

 

My wife tells me that "Social Distancing" is nothing new to me.

I've been doing it for years hanging out in the garage.

Tony

 

That's where l went wrong should have bought a house with a garage.

 

Better off with a workshop about 50 feet from the house. Wife can't just open the house door and yell at you, and most are afraid of the dark so you are really safe at night.

 

I'm lucky enough to be able to work at home. All that commuting time is mine. No gasoline expense. We can't go out to dinner. No social gatherings. So, more time with my wife. More time for working on motorcycles. More money for motorcycle parts. We're also lucky that liquor stores are considered essential business.

Please stay safe as you're able.

 

No matter what type of alcohol you use it has to be at least 60% to do any good.
Just make sure to add a drop or two of water to your glass before drinking so you can unlock the more complex flavors.

 

I have saved a lot of money on deodorant and razor blades.

 

Me too! I've got a cancer on my face and my surgery appointment keeps backing up. I'm not shaving until it's time to get it done, or I have to go back to working at the office.
Also, my gym is closed, so that money is freed up as well. Gas is cheap. I wish I could be burning it up in a motorcycle!

 

who ever did the marketing package design on this sanitizer should lose their job as well as whoever approved it.

my state is not on a lockdown but all non essential business have closed , everyone where I work except a handful of people are on furlough getting unemployment checks plus an additional 600 from the gvmt for their troubles now thats extra mc parts money.

me i am still working as out internationals and J1 are stuck here with no way to get home.
not getting extra gvmt money.

warm enough to ride so I am taking advantage of empty roads just went and checked on my J1 and internationals still there , nice quick 100 miles

 

Social distancing makes the problem worse, just like the 1918 Spanish Flu, it was a highly contagious but mild flu in the spring of 1918, and everyone started "distancing"...….and thus prevented the virus from dying out (viruses die out only when there is no one (basically) left to infect). Then in the fall of that year it came right back and killed 60+ million. Same set-up is happening here. Since only the very old and otherwise immune-compromised are at risk of dying from it, then those people should take extra precaution (and isolate if they think it necessary, just like they always do during flu season....., everyone else should actually be encouraged (almost) to get it, most people have either no symptoms or very mild flu symptoms, and the more people who get this mild version of the flu virtually eliminates the chance that the flu survives and mutates into a later, much Much MUCH more deadly version.

All of this is quite well known, the real "virus" is the lack of adults in the room and "experts" who are really money-grabbers and political hacks. "I need 30,000 ventilators" says a well known loudmouth. 90% of people who go on a ventilator leave in a pine box, and about 60% of those who manage to survive die within a year. Use a mask, no don't use a mask, no use a mask but we need them for health-care "heroes" so don't use a mask, wrap your head like a mummy with a winter scarf. Use this drug, no you'll be arrested and lose your license if you prescribe it, no wait I need a million doses for my state.

The healthcare heroes, like it or not, whether by accident or just by lack of discipline (been to an ER lately and observed the majority of the staff?) are probably the main spreaders of the disease......and it's not for the lack of masks and gowns, it's for the lack of proper protocol (i.e. washing hands, changing hand and foot gloves, etc.).

And besides, most hospitals appear to be empty, many are actually laying staff off or putting them on-call:




Karl Denninger has done some of the best research on the virus issue:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker

 

Sorry Chacal, but that information is false. The goal is to lower transmission rates so hospitals don't get overwhelmed. The nations that enacted social distancing early have had their infection rate lower dramatically. We have tools not that weren't available in 1918, and it's those tools that will reduce the death rate, if we lower the rate of infection.

 

What tools are those? And why is "lowering the infection rate" for a seemingly rather benign version of a flu even a goal, at all? The way that viruses get eradicated is via exposure to enough people that there is, literally, no one left to infect. Getting infected by a non-fatal (and by the evidence, most people suffer rather weak effects or none at all) virus is the equivalent of getting a vaccine....it confers immunity. And it's REAL immunity, not the "get a flu shot because we think this is the strain that will might be prevalent this year" type of "immunity". Why wait for 18 months for a possible vaccine development when "getting it and getting over it" creates immunity? This isn't Ebola or SARS/MERS, where "getting it" is a Very Bad Thing for almost everyone.

Like I said, protect the most vulnerable and let everyone else go about their business, just like is done EVERY flu season (which kills 20-80,000 people in the USA, year after year). Even in Italy, the most horrific example so far, the average age of people who've died is 79 years old, and 90% of those had 2 or more "complicating factors" (heart disease, diabetes, etc.). 79 years of age is the average life expectancy in Italy! And it's more-or-less the average age (and co-factors) of people that annually succumb to the regular, garden variety seasonal flu. No one was running around with their hair on fire about the flu in 2018, or 2013, or 1997, or 1993, or 1966, etc. There was no daily headline, no round-the-clock hyperventilating, no daily briefings, nothing.

Depending on who you choose to believe (CDC, NIH, WHO, etc.) there are anywhere between 300K and 650K influenza or flu"related" deaths per year worldwide; in the USA those numbers are 10K to 80K deaths per year. From the regular flu! And most of those are people are both old and have aggravating complications. This isn't to dismiss the seriousness of influenza, and the need to protect those who are most at risk, but "social distancing" isn't the way to do it.

So, either there's something quite serious that we (the entire world) is not being told about this, or there's some other reason why the "sky is falling" crowd is out in full song 24/7 about this.

 

The power of the media at work. As world wide communications evolves so does our exposure to what is going communicated. Most of the world is dealing with this as reflex management. The click bait makes me wonder why it is being reported the way it is. No checking on facts, background legwork is almost gone from our news agencies, just get it out there who cares. I chose not to watch.

On a more positive note, I do hope all are well or doing as best they can. Keep working in the sheds, shops and the great outdoors when you can. That sunshine is a great emotional lift.

 

One, we minimize the impact of the flu. If people could stay home when they were sick and not lose their jobs and insurance, maybe there wouldn’t be 10s of thousands of deaths every near in America. Maybe that wouldn’t be normal.

But make no mistake about it, this is worse than the flu. Young healthy people do die from Covid-19, even if it’s not as common, because it is so infectious. There’s no guarantee that infection results in broad immunity (look no further than the flu as an example). There are possible cases of reinfection.

This is a developing situation and the science takes time. Just like a newbie may come on this site and spit a bunch of knowledge about spraying starting fluid and rigging wiring and not having the time to check their valves and brake shoes for delimitation, we have to listen to the experts for measured and methodical solutions. And social distancing is the best “step back, have a beer, take out a volt meter” solution for the scientists and medical staff who are “pulling apart the carbs and doing required maintenance.”

Hopefully the result is a change to what “normal” is so we don’t have to go through this again.

 

H1/N1 flu just a good read for some thought.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

 

Keep in mind that Italy has a population with a high median age (45.5 years, 5th oldest in the world; The U.S. median age is 38.1), so it follows that most of the deaths there will be among the elderly because there are more elderly people in Italy.

Healthy doctors have died from this virus.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927753

In the US a doctor who was likely wearing appropriate PPE at work (an assumption on my part) has died,and several more have symptoms.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...k-after-exhibiting-covid-19-symptoms/2354084/

It is nothing like Influenza.

I don't react to any crisis in a knee-jerk manner. I listen to primary sources whenever possible, and trusted secondary sources when primary sources are not available (thank you to all of my college instructors for beating that into my head). The major news outlets are not exagerating for the sake of producing a panic or generating ratings. Look at foreign news sources if you don't believe the sources in your own nation, paying particular notice to news outlets run by (or associated with) medical professional organizations.

 

Now...who wants to get back to discussing silly ways to cope with the situation we're all in?

How much bacon did you eat today?
The only correct answer is "not enough."

 

And don't put water in your Bourbon like I don't in my Whiskey.

 

or how much has your alcohol consumption gone up

 

Well, everyone, including the "experts", seem to classify it as an influenza, they should know best? Virology ain't exactly a brand-new branch of science.

Then why does the government(s)?

Actually, major news outlet do exactly this, all the time, 24/7, or they're out of business. 70K people a year dies of drug overdoses, there's no "running count" banner on the side of screen for those deaths, and it's not on a 24-hour trumpet cycle (and, strangely enough, it hasn't overloaded the hospitals or health-care systems...……..).

Those are the last types of organizations that I would trust! They work for the benefit of their specific members/clientele, not for the general public. This pandemic seemingly will result in record-setting sales/profits for medical equipment suppliers, medical service providers (some of them), and certainly a much higher profile and "status" for the CDC (who obviously can't predict things properly, nor make working test kits, etc.) and other associated problem-makers. They are at best incompetent, and more than likely, merely another type of self-serving politicians.


Healthy people (including doctors) die all the time, it's a shame, but it happens, and is kinda expected given all that they are exposed to.


You notice that certain high-level weasels, as heads of professional agencies and organizations, are already predicting that this virus will even more virulent (and deadly) in the upcoming fall and winter:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/0...ly-to-resurge-in-the-fall-virologist-predicts


Which, of course, would be exactly what is to be expected when you intentionally suppress the benign, non-lethal forms of a virus and thus allow the lethal versions to continue to accumulate and survive and do, seemingly, everything in your power to prevent the only known and probable immunity (thru exposure) to develop......

This is akin to playing Russian roulette with the health of the entire country, it's reckless, negligent, and borderline criminal.


Some non-mainstream sources aren't barking for advertising dollars, so perhaps their insights, points of view, and well-sourced and confirmed data might be worth exploring....it wont hurt, it might even help:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker


But hey, it's only a physical and economic life-or-death issue, so perhaps the decisions made today matter just not for the here-and-now, but more importantly, for the future.

"The direction in which education starts a man will determine his future life."
- Plato

 

Dabbling in philosophy now. Interesting subject it is.

 

i can't even buy booze
https://www.finewineandgoodspirits....eView?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10051

 

More money for your bike accessories.

 

I expected you'd be a Hoarder?
Cheers, 50gary

 

"The major news outlets are not exaggerating for the sake of producing a panic or generating ratings. Look at foreign news sources if you don't believe the sources in your own nation, paying particular notice to news outlets run by (or associated with) medical professional organizations."
This is exactly what is happening, exactly. Trump keeps saying "we are fighting an invisible enemy". and that's it. plan to wreck the economy by shutting it down. Dr. Fouci says 11 months! that would be the end of this country as we knew it (past tense)
The virus is real the reaction to it is not, it's manufactured and grossly exaggerated for political effect.
Note: Keep an eye on British PM Boris Johnson. he's in ICU. I believe this will be an indicator.
I also drink Bourbon (Evan Williams single barrel) with a splash of water to open it up. I still don't know what "branch water" is?
Cheers, 50gary

 

Water from a clear running stream.

 

Well that would be because they don't classify it as an influenza.

See: NBK8174

Specifically: Table

Influenza viruses are types of Orthomyxovirus

Covid19 is a specific new type of Coronavirus, which is an entirely different family.

The symptoms and effects of Covid19 can be flulike, but the virus itself is not at all like the flu, which is what makes it far more worrisome (due in large part to a very small percentage of people having antibodies to it, or even antibodies that can prevent it from being passed on even when no symptoms occur). Coronaviruses mutate relatively rapidly.

Prudence says to follow CDC guidelines and buy time for a vaccine and/or effective treatment to be developed (preferably one that isn't as risky as no treatment at all).
The hospitals in Italy were overwhelmed because the government wated too long to inact social distancing protocols. The same happened in New York state. Let's not allow that to happen in any other state of this union.

 

Or get a root canal or any other emergency dental procedures...…..or have they changed that stupid order?

In either case, I feel your pain...…

I don't get it, it creates fevers, neurological symptoms, upper and then lower respiratory infections (pneumonia)…...sure sounds like a flu to me.

The CDC and WHO are full of crap, they're bureaucratic cesspools and are part of the problem (a big part...…..). Hell, the WHO basically has a genocidal maniac as it's head. And remember the WHO down-played the whole thing up until the point it became embarrassing to do so. The CDC can't tell $hit from shinola. Fauci and Brix are up to their eyeballs in the entire sordid, ugly, playing-politics LACK OF RESPONSE to the AIDS outbreak back in the '80 which went on for a full 10 years before there was even a treatment, never mind any vaccine. Besides smallpox, polio, and a few others, there are exactly ZERO successful "vaccines" for viruses, besides immunity created by exposure (ie.. you get it and get over it).

So why in the world would I have any level of trust or confidence in anything that those bozo's say, given their track record? I couldn't give a Flying Wet Crap about their models, they didn't work then, they aren't working now, and my best guess is that they won't work in the future.

Social distancing is exactly the wrong solution, which is, unfortunately, exactly what you'd expect from a bunch of hacks and political boot-lickers and status-seekers.


Here, here's another insight, from someone who also has also has a lot of credentials:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGC5sGdz4kg

Perhaps the most salient point: "I'm not paid by the government so I am actually paid to do science".

Another one (hey, he's from Stanford, he must have a at least some basis for his opinons), he's not on TV every day but maybe he's not trying to "sell" you something):




P.S. k-moe my disagreements are not personal, I hope you know that!

 

Len, I think you should take an infectious disease class. My wife just did as she needs education to keep renewing her nursing license. I think you have the wrong end of the stick on a number of things. Take a deep breath and distance and stay safe. Covid-19 is far more easy to spread than some people are willing to accept. Just because it has some symptoms that are similar to influenza, doesn't make it the same. Like a motorcycle engine, there are levels of understanding. Peace.

 

Statements like this show (and others you've posted) that there is absolutely no facts that will change your mind
You are dead set that what you think right now is correct
You find sources that back up your current beliefs and dismiss those that don't without trying to understand what that source tells you
That fact that New York is contemplating mass graves for the dead seems to not sway you at all

 

Absolutely. I would never even question that.

 

FWIW South Korea used what they learned from dealing with MERS, and eveyone wore masks right off the bat, as well as instituted social distancing (though without stay at home orders) and testing. They have the lowest per-capita infection an death rates in the world despite being one of the first nations to show infections.
If the U.S. had responded as quickly (in January when we should have) we might not have needed to issue stay at home orders and the peak of infections might have already passed.
We are where we are, and changing the manner of response at this time will likely increase the rate of transmission and make the peak load on hospitals worse.

 

Of course it's easy to spread, but so is the common cold. Most people get it, feel a little or a lotta bad for a while, and get over it. 99+% of them. This particular virus....note the common cold is also a viral infection.....follows a similar pattern. And people who are most at risk --- advanced age and/or with significant or multiple complicating factors (heart disease, COPD, renal problems, obesity, diabetes, etc.) can and do get very sick and die from all viral diseases that lead to respiratory problems.

Once again: seasonal flu kills 30 - 80,000 people per year in the USA, and no one, but no one runs around in a hysterical panic about. No one demands 30,000 ventilators to battle the outbreak. NO ONE EVEN SUGGESTED LOCKING DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD (!) TO COMBAT IT IN 2018, 2012, 1994, 1982, etc. Has anyone stopped to ask themselves why? Is it too uncomfortable a question to contemplate?

I live in Atlanta, in a neighborhood that has many current and former CDC employees, and interact with some of them on various levels. The "average" (worker-bee) employees are bright, dedicated people who are curious and competent and generally beyond reproach. The leadership is full of crap, are political hacks, and at best incompetent and probably corrupt. They are career bureaucrats, not technicians...….the same type of people who ruin other large organizations (think GM and Chrysler). The head of WHO is another jerk-off first class, here's the NY Times on him from 2017:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/...ector-general-ethiopia-cholera-outbreaks.html

if you don't want to join to read the rest of it, here's the full version:

https://www.opride.com/2017/05/11/case-director-general-candidate-tedros-adhanom

This is the guy in charge of the WORLD Health Organization, right.

“We'll know that our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
- William Casey, Director of the CIA, 1981-87
from his first staff meeting in 1981

This is the words of the top dog. Take it however you wish.

"Contemplating" is the key word. Three weeks ago they were "contemplating" 500K dead. The goal is to frighten and scare people. And it's working...……

MERS is different; this isn't MERS or SARS. Social distancing (except for the highly at-risk groups, as previously stated) is the worst idea possible; here I'll cue-up the video at the relevant time so you only have to listen to less than a minute of it....correction, when this website re-formats youtube video links, it drops the "time-stamping" feature, so go to the 11:50 mark in the video for the important 2-minute segment:




The reality is that almost every action being taken is contradictory to what should be done to deal with a highly transmissible, very benign version of "influenza" or however it should be categorized. Hence my original statement: either there is something VERY MAJOR and VERY SERIOUS that we're not being told (what? and why not? would be the logical questions if this is the situation) or there is ANOTHER AGENDA that is being pursued, and thus the need for the charade.

 

It's been demonstrated over and over again that governments are not very good at working together across jurisdictions to get anything done (both internationally and on the local/federal level), nor are they good at keeping secrets. This is what it appears to be (a pandemic outbreak of a novel and naturally occuring virus), and nothing more.

 

The flu has vaccines that are developed each year to fight the current strain. Hopefully seniors and those at risk take advantage of that. Covid-19 is new and there is no vaccine. THAT... is the difference here. If left to run rampant you would have many more catching it and getting sick and hopefully recovering and becoming immune to some extent, but also many, many more would die. Would you risk your grandparents or elderly, in poor health parents to get sick so they can become immune? No, and that is the reason for handling this situation the way is being handled.

 

That, and that some go directly to double pneumonia, which is serious and hard to recover from if there are co-morbidities.

 

I hope they can get a vaccine as soon as possible.

 

Disagree strongly, and let's make sure we recognize that "governments" are simply made up of PEOPLE, and people do all sorts of things together and in collusion (in the literal, not the valuative sense of the word)...sometimes successfully, other times not. Yes, there are idiots and morons in "government", there are also weasels, scam artists, hucksters, malicious power-hungry reprobates, etc. Just look at the current and any past crop of ELECTED employees, who tend to more-or-less have a spotlight on them (at least occasionally). Now think of the ones who live in the shadows, who have perhaps even more pull and influence than elected officials. Know what a "lobbyist" is? They aren't even elected...…..

Again, I think this is what people are being TOLD, but novel viruses have happened before (https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/flu/current/novel.html#Example1) and we didn't shut down the world for it. As far as naturally-occurring is concerned, well, may I interest you in some oceanfront property in Tulsa?

CRISPR is your future...…

See above.

Exactly! It's what happens with every virus, and is how immunity is created, and how the virus is driven out of circulation. Works the same way as a (non-existent) vaccine works...….only much quicker, much more targeted, much more precise.

Which is exactly what is going to happen if you eliminate the benign version of the virus via isolation and let the much more lethal strains survive...…..if you think this is bad, just wait until next flu season.

No, and that's why people with special risk profiles should take special precautions AS IS USUALLY DONE (or should be) WITH SEASONAL FLU.

No, it's not. The procedures and protocols for handling seasonal flu or viral respiratory illnesses are well-established, well-known, and typically work well. That's the reason that is being given, but perhaps that's not true, at all. If so, can you think of what other reasons might be valid?

 

You don't even have to "keep secrets", you can just use the slop and natural grayness of "the system" to goal-seek the answers you want to either: a) downplay a result, or b) create the level of hysteria you desire. Think of it as a volume knob, if you have an ulterior motive that needs to be satisfied. Here's how the fear-factor is done:



You can go to about the 11:00 mark to start if you want your eyes opened.

 

I think everyone needs to see that 1st video @chacal referenced "Perspectives on the Pandemic"
The world likely made a very big mistake in their handling of this.
I liked his comment, "I don't work for the government, so I'm actually able to practice science".

 

Breathing, coughing and sneezing here is a video by Dr John Campbell.

 

I don't know how to attach a pdf file here, so you'll have to quickly look at this link:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths-04072020-1.pdf

April 7 (yesterday) total stats for NYC "Corona" deaths.....and that's assuming that the deaths were actually DUE TO the virus (as opposed to merely a reflection of "they died, and they ALSO HAD Covid-19", which suggests a correlation but not causation, and is how "fake facts" are created; refer to the previous video from the Montana doctor; but let's ignore that for now....):

3202 total deaths, 2407 (!) of them had serious underlying medical conditions, and only 55 didn't have underlying conditions. In 740 cases it is "not known" whether they had underlying conditions.

But let's ignore the 740 "unknowns" for now (most probably, those 740 will distribute proportionately between the "has underlying" and "no underlying conditions" groups, i.e. same as the others, but we'll ignore that for now); that means of the people where their health conditions are known for sure, 2402 had severe underlying conditions and only 55 did not.

Let's do some simple, quick maffs: 2402 + 55 = 2457 total deaths where the health history is known.

So over 97% of the "total known health conditions" ---- ninety-seven percent! --- had severe underlying health conditions (Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and/or GI/Liver Disease)……...by the way, this number reflects pretty much the situation is the other oft-referenced "horror story" situation --- Italy --- too.

Hmmmm…….

And let's also note that among the "young" crowd (18-44 and 45-64), the numbers are just as skewed, so somehow saying "oh, but young people get it, too, so here's another reason to run around with your hair on fire"...…..well, true, but entirely misleading, because the real assessment should be: if you have serious underlying health issues, this OR ANY OTHER SEASONAL VIRUS / FLU has a real good chance of doing you in. That's what the data says, and other than the data, all anyone is left with is "feelz", which is okay, but it's not a good way to go about setting policy or making decisions (not just for yourself, but especially for others).

Dr. Campbell, I like him, I've seen a lot of his videos (since this started)……..he's a genius at explaining things in a manner than a non-expert can understand. One of his earliest videos shows how to properly wash your hands; it should run as a PSA on every channel and network once an hour (now that would be good policy). The problem, once again, with his "thesis" or conclusions, is that there seems to be this "unspoken goal" of somehow trying to prevent almost ANYONE from getting this disease...….separate by 26 feet, or better yet, just isolate completely from everyone else. This is insane, it's not how the real, natural world works, and besides, why would a society want to do it? What's the point? To "defeat" nature? To prevent anyone, at anytime, from getting sick? Well, sure, you can try that, and you can also try holding back the waves in the ocean, but...…….it ain't going to work. We already know what works and have been practicing that for most viral infections for close to 100 years...….successfully, I might add.

So why the big change? Large organizations ("bureaucracies") tend to make decisions based on certain agendas, and those agenda typically have little, if anything, to do with the stated or supposed "goal" of the organization. You have petty in-fighting; you have jockeying for power; you have boot-licking, brown-nosing, incompetence, nepotism, bribes, kickbacks, cloak-and-dagger, opportunities for corruption, being a malcontent jerk-off, and the list goes on and on; you read it about all the time in both the private and public sectors, and if you've ever worked in a large organization, you've probably experienced it for yourself. Entire movies and TV series are built fully around this very premise and reality, and they only portray the sugar-coated version...…...

So again: the data overwhelmingly suggests that this "flu" is not much different from almost every other flu that's come and gone here and there and everywhere a thousand times over. So why the disproportionate, super-sized, all-hands-on-deck response? Either there's something really dramatic and serious that us peasants are not being told (and should be, like "stat"), or, there's some other AGENDA that is being driven and pushed down everyone's throat. EITHER THE DATA IS WRONG OR THE RESPONSE IS WRONG.

So which is it?

 

Yes l think that too about bureaucracies Chacal.

 

People named Franz are typically very bright!

 

And one was a genius Franz Liszt one of my favourite composers. Well l just hope they can get a vaccine for this disease as soon as possible.

 

I hope there is a vaccine soon there is a story in the Daily Mail today and I hope it can be done.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...MONTHS-Oxford-University-researchers-say.html

 

There IS a vaccine, it's called exposure (for most people) to the virus.....

Lockdowns Did Nothing:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238858

or, you want to listen instead of read:



Executive Summary:

Iowa did not lock down their economy. They did not force "non-essential" business to close, nor order residents to shelter in place. And they're right next door to Illinois that did, and yet their effective R-rate (the "rate of spread" among people) as shown above, is exactly in-line with the rest of the nation that did order everyone to stay home.

Oh, by the way, Arkansas also did not implement such an order. Their rate has converged to that of Tennessee, right next door, which did...….

Why is that, you think? Bueller? Bueller?


Once again, perhaps the most important 45 minutes you'll ever spend....not just because it reveals some uncomfortable facts, but because it leads directly to the most important question of all: WHY?

 

A big reason to flatten the curve is because the healthcare system cannot take this influx of patients. What happened in Italy can and may still happen here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/
It is one thing if everybody who needs it can get care, but that's not the case. There aren't the resources, or at least the government has been not being efficient at getting the resources where they're needed most and at reasonable cost. If we don't slow down the spread, we have more people dying. It's not that we shouldn't get herd immunity, it's that we can't afford it (in lives lost).

 

Once again, that's the battle cry, and it's a false story. There's never been another seasonal flu / influenza / whatever that has caused this level of concern. Just last year (2018-2019 flu season) saw "extraordinary numbers", and not a peep from anyone about it:

"In total, the CDC estimates that:
- up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season
- 647,000 people were hospitalized
- 61,200 died

That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of:
- 48.8 million illnesses
- 959,000 hospitalizations
- 79,400 deaths

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Why wasn't there a panic then, when the estimated hospitalizations were close to a million? Why wasn't martial law declared with all of this wonderful advance knowledge? Why weren't hospitals put on "wartime" preparations in advance of this highly trusted, CDC-modelled information? And most importantly, why weren't governors locking everyone into their homes and screaming for a hundred gazillion ventilators, etc.? Why? They must have been grossly negligent, back then (last year) ---- so glad they learned their lessons from that experience.

"That experience".....you know, we all remember it so clearly, just like it was last year, right? It was horrible. It was death, and destruction, widows collapsing in the streets, and nothing but Divine Intervention and the "heroes" in the headlthcare system (especially the highly paid administrators, stockholders, and "those" types) that saved us all.....

Preventing herd immunity from occurring will cost an untold greater amount of expense (economic and mortality) instead of letting it occur, as has been the human experience for the last 200,000 years or so. This is NOT a hemorrhagic virus or the like.

We're being scammed, and we're all going to pay a very high price (in a number of ways):

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