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XJ700 braided steel brake hoses

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by 1985xj700, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. 1985xj700

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    Anybody know where I can find a set of braided stainless steel front brake hoses for my 1985 XJ700? By "set" I mean all three hoses.
     
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    Here they is!:

    STAR-6ZF Braided Stainless Steel Brake Line Applications:

    bhs1) Aftermarket high-performance BRAIDED STAINLESS STEEL BRAKE LINES, fully and completely DOT approved, pre-bent and configured for each specific model. Constructed with a PTFE Type 62 Teflon coated inner tube---therefore making these lines compatible with all types of brake fluid on the market today---and then wrapped with 16 layers of a braided stainless steel mesh, making them the finest quality and safest lines on the market today. These lines truly give you the best braking system enhancement for your money.

    Our braided stainless steel brake lines are available with your choice of the protective, translucent plastic outer sheath color: Black (BLK), Bright Blue (BLU), Bright Red (RED), or Clear (CLR). Please note that the Clear (CLR) outer sheathing allows you to see the inner stainless steel braid directly, so that the hose appears like it is "silver" or "chrome".

    All of our STAR-6ZF braided stainless steel brake lines come with the bright zinc-plated banjo end fittings already pressure-crimped to the hose, making the lines ready-to-install, as original (NOTE: some models may have originally had yellow-zinc plated banjo fittings, which are no longer available due to environmental considerations).

    On models originally equipped with the outer coil spring armor, these replacement braided stainless steel lines will NOT have such spring-armor installed.....it is not necessary as the braided stainless steel mesh is far stronger and more puncture-resistant than the spring-armor ever was.

    All caliper lines also come with an attached hose routing bracket rubber grommet that is similar to the original.

    NOTE: because our lines have been designed and test fitted on ORIGINAL BIKES, they may not fit well or at all on bikes that have been modified from original via the use of these different major components: forks, fork tubes, brake calipers, steering under-bracket or crown bracket, handlebars, or master cylinders. Braided stainless steel lines have very little (meaning: "zero") rotational flexing ability, and thus once their end fittings are bent and oriented to a specific application---such as with our lines---there's not much end fitting orientation variance (from original) available----unlike with our rubber lines, which have a much greater range of flexibility to them.

    And while some people believe that they would be better off converting from the original 3-line brake system to an aftermarket 2-line system, thus doing away with the factory joint-manifold-splitter (whatever you wish to call it!) on the lower steering bracket, we feel that such a strategy is not a effective solution for a number of reasons:

    a) obviously, such lines will NOT be DOT-approved.

    b) nor may they be legal for bikes that are operated in areas that conduct licensing inspections on motorcycles.

    c) and while dual-hose set-ups may be worthwhile for bikes that use very short runs of brake hose---like some modern sport bikes---street bikes, which use much longer lengths of brake line, will experience increased brake line "swell" under pressure due to the additional length of brake line and additional amount of fluid in such a system. REMEMBER, the brake line end fittings ("banjo bolts") and the distribution union ("joint" or "manifold" or "splitter") are hard lines AND DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO BRAKE HOSE SWELL......and thus, if you add up the actual HOSE length between a 2-line and a 3-line system, you will find that the original style 3-line systems actually use a shorter overall length of hose than a 2-line system!


    Also, please be aware that braided stainless steel lines will give you a much firmer lever feel and quicker, more precise and responsive braking action. You will need to get accustomed to the new braking characteristics of your bike in a controlled manner: practice makes perfect. Trust us---you do NOT want your first real "practice" session to involve a panic stop!

    Finally, since stainless lines have almost no "pressure swell" to them AT ALL, it is not uncommon that any brake disc rotor warpage issues.....even minor ones.....that were previously unknown or minor in effect while those old, worn rubber lines were installed, will become HIGHLY NOTICABLE when you install stainless steel lines. There will no longer be any "swelling, pulsating, deteriorated rubber hoses" to absorb all those tiny pulses of fluid pressure that a warped rotor(s) causes.....and you WILL feel these pulses (in the lever, and in the brake system action) with a stainless brake line installed!

    Now, give this idea some thought: with new braided stainless steel brake lines, a rebuilt master cylinder and rebuilt caliper(s), and with a replacement high-performance EBC bolt-on disc brake rotor and brake pads (or two, or three, depending on your model)---could it be that all of a sudden, your 20+ year old XJ-series bike now stops just as well as a modern bike?


    1985-86 XJ700 all models:

    NOTE: on these models, both caliper lines also include the single rubber sleeve grommet for the fender hose routing bracket. Unlike the original rubber lines, braided stainless steel lines do NOT require nor include an external spiral spring-armor guard. Ordering these lines with the CLEAR (CLR) sheathing will give you an installed appearance that is very similar to a factory rubber line which had a bright spring-wrapped armor.


    HCP2850BLKST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the master cylinder to the distribution joint, with black sheathing.
    $ 47.95

    HCP2851BLKST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the distribution joint to the left or right brake caliper, with black sheathing. Each:
    $ 49.95



    HCP2850CLRST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the master cylinder to the distribution joint, with clear sheathing.
    $ 47.95

    HCP2851CLRST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the distribution joint to the left or right brake caliper, with clear sheathing. Each:
    $ 49.95



    HCP2850REDST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the master cylinder to the distribution joint, with bright red sheathing.
    $ 47.95

    HCP2851REDST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the distribution joint to the left or right brake caliper, with bright red sheathing. Each:
    $ 49.95



    HCP2850BLUST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the master cylinder to the distribution joint, with bright blue sheathing.
    $ 47.95

    HCP2851BLUST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE LINE ASSEMBLY, from the distribution joint to the left or right brake caliper, with bright blue sheathing. Each:
    $ 49.95



    BRAKE HOSE HARDWARE:


    Boots:

    HCP2833 OEM brake hose rubber Cap Boot, fits over the union bolt at the master cylinder hose outlet. Use 1 per bike on all XJ650 Maxim and Midnight Maxim models, all XJ700 models, and XJ750 Maxim and Midnight Maxim models, and all XJ1100 models. This boot has the openings at a 135-degree angle to each other. Each:
    $ 8.50


    Union "Banjo" Bolts:

    HCP1075 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. This is a single-hose-attachment length bolt, dark phosphate finish, and is used on all models, in all positions, except for the models/positions listed as using a double-hose-attachment length bolt under part number HCP1076 below. These bolts should be tightened to a maximum of 19 foot-pounds of torque! Each:
    $ 2.00

    HCP1075SET2 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 2:
    $ 3.75

    HCP1075SET4 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 4:
    $ 7.25

    HCP1075SET8 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 8:
    $ 14.00




    HCP4232 Aftermarket brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. This is a single-hose-attachment length bolt, bright polished chrome-plated finish, and is used on all models, in all positions, except for the models/positions listed as using a double-hose-attachment length bolt under part number HCP1076 below. These bolts should be tightened to a maximum of 15 foot-pounds of torque! Each:
    $ 5.00

    HCP4232SET2 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 2:
    $ 9.00

    HCP4232SET4 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 4:
    $ 17.00

    HCP4232SET8 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, caliper, or lower fork tube anti-dive valves. Set of 8:
    $ 29.00


    TOTAL SINGLE-DEPTH UNION BOLT USAGE BY BIKE:

    XJ700 all (use 4)



    HCP1076 OEM brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, or caliper. This is a double-hose-attachment length bolt, dark phosphate finish, and is used only on the following models, and only in the listed positions: All XJ700 models, right side of the distribution block. All 1983 XJ750 Maxim and Midnight Maxim models, outlet side of the distribution block. All XJ750 Seca and XJ900RK models, at the caliper where caliper lines and lower anti-dive brake lines join together. All XJ1100 models, left side caliper line, upper end. These bolts should be tightened to a maximum of 19 foot-pounds of torque! Each:
    $ 4.50



    HCP4233 Aftermarket brake hose junction Union Bolt, used to attach a brake line end fitting to the master cylinder, distribution block, or caliper. This is a double-hose-attachment length bolt, bright polished chrome-plated finish, and is used only on the following models, and only in the listed positions: All XJ700 models, right side of the distribution block. All 1983 XJ750 Maxim and Midnight Maxim models, outlet side of the distribution block. All XJ750 Seca and XJ900RK models, at the caliper where caliper lines and lower anti-dive brake lines join together. All XJ1100 models, left side caliper line, upper end. These bolts should be tightened to a maximum of 19 foot-pounds of torque! Each:
    $ 6.00


    TOTAL DOUBLE-DEPTH UNION BOLT USAGE BY BIKE:

    XJ700 all (use 1)



    Crush Washers:

    HCP1077 OEM brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, used to seal the brake hose end fitting to both the union bolt and the attachment point (be it the master cylinder, the distribution block, the lower fork tube, or the caliper). Each single-length union bolt requires the use of two crush washers, while double-length union bolts requires the use of three washers per bolt. Crush washers should be replaced every time you remove a brake hose!! NEVER use any other type of washer in place of a crush washer!!! Each:
    $ 1.50

    HCP1077SET2 OEM brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, pair:
    $ 2.95

    HCP1077SET4 OEM brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 4:
    $ 5.75

    HCP1077SET8 OEM brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 8:
    $ 11.00

    HCP1077SET12 OEM brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 12:
    $ 16.00




    HCP4231 Aftermarket brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, used to seal the brake hose end fitting to both the union bolt and the attachment point (be it the master cylinder, the distribution block, the lower fork tube, or the caliper). Each single-length union bolt requires the use of two crush washers, while double-length union bolts requires the use of three washers per bolt. Crush washers should be replaced every time you remove a brake hose!! NEVER use any other type of washer in place of a crush washer!!! Each:
    $ 1.25

    HCP4231SET2 Aftermarket brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, pair:
    $ 2.25

    HCP4231SET4 Aftermarket brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 4:
    $ 4.00

    HCP4231SET8 Aftermarket brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 8:
    $ 7.00

    HCP4231SET12 Aftermarket brake hose union bolt copper Crush Washer, set of 12:
    $ 9.00



    TOTAL BRAKE CRUSH WASHER USAGE BY BIKE:

    XJ700 all (use 11)




    Caliper Hose Routing Brackets:

    bh5) OEM front brake Hose Routing Brackets, u-shaped brackets bolt to the front fork(s) and help retain and properly route the front caliper hose.


    HCP2802 OEM front brake caliper Hose Routing Bracket, fits all XJ700 models on the left disc brake rotor/hose.
    $ 14.00

    HCP2803 OEM front brake caliper Hose Routing Bracket, fits all XJ700 models on the right disc brake rotor/hose.
    $ 9.00






    Brake System Tools:


    bp1) Master Cylinder DEEP-REACH CIRCLIP PLIERS----these special extra-deep 90-degree angled circlip pliers allow you to easily remove and install the circlip (or "c'-clip) that hides way down inside the top of the plunger bore (below the rubber boot). Without a DEEP set of circlip pliers, you're going to fight and struggle with this part of your master cylinder rebuild project. Regular store-bought circlip pliers may have a 90-degree attachment, but unless they are extra-deep like these, they still won't be able to reach that circlip.

    HCP1597 Aftermarket master cylinder Circlip Pliers, each:
    $ 16.95



    bp11) Aftermarket BRAKE BLEEDER KITS. By eliminating the need to constantly pump-and-release the hand lever, and loosen and tighten the bleeder screw, you'll save yourself an incredible amount of time, effort, and swearing with these kits.

    The master cylinders on these bikes push a very small amount of fluid with each hand stroke, and thus bleeding a system is a long, time-consuming chore----but, on the positive side, it's a really great way to build up a really strong, firm, manly handshake and grip. But there's other ways and times to accomplish that, so when all you want to do is bleed your brakes, then there's nothing better than these labor-saving tools.

    NOTE: hand-bleeding a dry system...such as when you change brake lines, or have rebuilt the master cylinder or calipers....is next to impossible to do without the use of a Mity-Vac vacuum system. It will take you hours to do by hand. With a Mity Vac, you'll do it in about 10 minutes, tops.

    The one-way valve kit is recommended for bleeding already full systems during annual fluid changes, etc.

    Hints: Make sure you don't run out of fluid in the reservoir when using these tools!

    Also, make sure that your caliper bleeder screws are clean and pass fluid freely (and continue to do so once the system is evacuated) as old debris in your brake system settles down to the lowest point in the system (the caliper reservoir) and gets sucked into the bleeder screw during bleeding, this clogging the system and making it impossible to bleed.


    HCP5908 All hail the great MITY-VAC vacuum assisted brake bleeder system. This complete kit contains the patented Mity-Vac vacuum-assisted brake bleeder vacuum pump, a fluid cup with bleed and storage lids, and assortment of clear hose lengths, adapters, and instruction manual.
    $ 39.95
     
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    Chacal has them.

    HCP2850CLRST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE HOSE ASSEMBLY, from the master cylinder to the distribution joint, with clear sheathing.
    $ 47.95

    HCP2851CLRST Aftermarket DOT-approved braided stainless steel BRAKE HOSE ASSEMBLY, from the distribution joint to the left or right brake caliper, with clear sheathing. Each:
    $ 49.95
     
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    lol Hey Len you beat me by one minute!
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    Hey VET.....I must have a faster internet connection than you! But it was a close race, and I congratulate you for your fine efforts!
     
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    thanks guys. this is an upgrade i would eventually like to make.
     
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    Well worth it! Like most, I can't say enough about Len. I had some problems with the SS lines not fitting with an after market MC and Len had a custom line built and shipped in no time.
     

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