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Custom Diagram Please

Discussion in 'XJ Modifications' started by Ace_Frehley, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Ace_Frehley

    Ace_Frehley Member

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    Hey guys, I've added a set of ape hangers, and while all the wiring worked out ok, everything works, the PO as hacked the harness to hell - no fuse box, no solder, just a twist of the wires and some tape :S.

    Anyway, I want to build the minimilist harness for the bike, but I would like to add 1) blinkers, 2) neutral indicator light, and 3) dash lights, but I'm not sure how to do that, so could one of you kind gentle men please help me out and show/tell me how to add those items to Gamaru's original diagram?

    Thanks,

    Ace
     
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    Ok, I've worked up something, will these additions work?
     

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    Hey Ace, I can't tell you if that diagram will work. I dont' know how to draw a wiring diagram but I know how to follow one. I currently have the wiring harness off my bike so I can repair some shredded wires. Please let me know if this harness works for you as I would like to set this up as well.
     
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    Looks to me like you will get 5 lamps flashing dimly when you turn the flasher switch either way. what is with the middle lamp?
     
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    Do a search of the mods forum, there is a minimal wire diagram available.
     
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    That is the minimal diagram Hound, but I want to know where to add flashers, dashlights and a a neutral light.
     
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    If you mean the middle lamp in the cluster of signal lights, thats the dash indicator. I couldn't care less about that. It's just in the diagram because I cut that section from the Yamaha Diagram.
     
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    You need to wire your dash indicator the same as the signal lights, one side to supply, the other to ground. In its current configuration, you will get a very dim light on all of the bulbs in that circuit.
     
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    Yes, what Robert said.
    You can leave the dash indicator out entirely, or you can add two diodes to the circuit, one on each lead of the dash indicator.
    Otherwise the circuit works.
    You might consider tying the horn to the battery positive lead with it's own fuse, and adding a high beam indicator to be legal in Canada.
    Horn has to work key on or off.
     
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    thanks guys, - Is this the best way to do it, or is there a better place to tie in the flashers?

    Robert, I'm not planning on using the blinker dash indicator
    Gunk, I will add the highbeam indicator, and I didn't know the horn had to work key on or off - My stock horn on any bike I've owned did not work key off.
     
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    *slaps self in head*
     
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    am i missing something here ?
     
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    am i the only one that can't see a thing on these diagrams? :-/ they're tiny
     
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    I know switch, they are hard to see, because that's as big as I can get it and still attach it.

    Basically, I've added the flasher, horn and dash lights to the wire on the far right (the one Polock has outlined in red)

    Btw, Polock, I saw that, but I figured that since other people have used the diagram before, I must just be missing something.

    Here's a bigger hosting of the pic

    http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4224/m ... ramfor.jpg
     
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    Polock noticed what appears to be a direct short to ground.
    Polock, you are mistaken. The open bubble indicates a connector. The ground is off of the case of the rectumfire/regulator. Step back one step and notice that the rectifier is a unit in this diagram. I missed it myself at first glance.
     
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    I pulled out my service manual and double-checked that. Yep, that's the way they have it drawn. I think the Br (Brown) and Ground (which in reality is a Green wire to ground), go to the regulator.

    Here's a picture:
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    The drawing simply tries to represent this, although not very well in my opinion.
     
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    Ya, what ↑↑ Robert ↑↑ said!
     
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    Robert and Gunk, the signal light wiring in the diagram is correct. The middle lamp is the instrument light.

    All five bulbs will not light when the signal switch is selected. The pair of 27W bulbs have a very low resistance and act as a ground for the unenergized side of the indicator light (which at 3.4W has a much higher resistance). The net effect is that the indicator light gets about 95% if the battery voltage and the other signal lights (the non energized ones) get about a 1/2 volt and therefore will not illuminate.

    It's a cheap easy way to use one instrument light for both signals.
     
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    the case of the rectifier/ regulator is mounted on a plastic plate, so to be grounded it must be thru a wire....?
    if the Br dot on the rectifier/ regulator is a connector then what would it be ?
    if it's +12 then it's unfused in parallel with a 10A fuse feeding the brake light
    if it's ground then the 10A fuse blows
    sun spots i tell ya sun spots :)
     
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    Hey, thanks Gitbox.
    I wondered if that was the case, but I've never seen this done, and I erred on the side of caution.
    I guess bulb wiring is not "electronics" in the strictest sense.
    Good to know.
     
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    Brown is a common trunk +12 It's not unfused. The battery main is fused.
     

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