New fuse box for '82 Maxim 750?

Has anybody found a new fuse box that would fit an '82 Maxim 750 where the old one goes? Chacal's is too tall for the location of the old one. I know that some folks have moved them to where the tool kit goes or behind the battery cover but I'd like to leave it in the original place if possible.

thanks,
mikeg

 

It's going to be hard/next-to-impossible to find an ATC style fusebox that is covered and which will fit in that location. There just isn't any room there in the stock location.........

Bussman sells a 6-circuit exposed fuse panel that uses a single input that is small/short enough to go into the stock location, but:

a) it's exposed, no cover, and if you try to fit a cover onto it, well, you're right back to the whole "tool tall" issue, again.

and

b) it requires some judicious re-wiring of your electrical system, since it's a 1-in/6-out style panel.

 

mikeg, you can use 4 inline blade fuse holders to replace them & in the original location. I did it on my 650 & it turned out nice. They are available with a weather tight cap that covers the fuse. Just need to arrange so they lay down a little.

 

Grabbed one of the 1-6 fuse holders, and yes it didn't matter how many times I starred at it, I was stil left with the same issue that it was one in and I needed to run 4 seperate, mainly 1 live. So after considering one from Chacal and duties and shipping and exchange rate. Plus knowone around here carrying what I had in my mind, even at the boat shops, nada. I figured Piss on it, and grabbed 4 Inline Fuse holders Like these..

http://www.electricscooterparts.com/fuseholders.html
ATO Fuse Holder With Red Wire
Weatherproof ATO fuse holder with protective cap. Heavy-duty 12AWG red power cable. 30 Amp fuse rating.
Item # FUS-360

Paid $1.25 each at a surples store here. Soldered them in place. As mentioned above, you just have to push them down or tie them to the side out of the way. Even if they aren't colour coded, you have 4 to choose from. 1 Is live, the other three you can guess what they do. 1- brakes,signal, 1- ignition and 1- lights, (<--Example). Sooo if something goes wrong you know it's one of the 3 unless there's no juice at all.. then it's the live, unless the battery's dead. Then you can trouble shoot from there. Either way, it's only 4 and you'll know what they are once you wire them in. =) Quick, Easy, Safer and Secure!!!!! compared to those Vile Glass Tubes!!!

 

I have one of Chacal's fust boxes for my Maxim 750 and it is on the list of next things to do. I'm thinking that it might *just* fit, Mike. I looked at the seat pan and those rubber washers that sit on the seat rails are about a quarter inch thick. Then I placed a straight edge across the seat rails and measured down to the top of the existing airbox. The way I figure it, the box would be an exact fit without the rubber gasket under the new fusebox. If someone else has experience that would prove my measurements wrong please jump in. I was looking for information about this installation a little while ago but there wasn't much available.

What I couldn't answer without trying it was if the seat pan compresses when I'm sitting on the bike.

Anyway, hope this is helpful. The other route of individual inline fuses will certainly work as well.

 

Hack,

I set mine on the airbox, with the gasket since I don't want to worry about moisture, and then put the seat on and it latched. But it rested on the top of the fuse box. I figure that with my 200+ pounds and bumps etc, I just don't want to take the chance.

It's a shame because it's a great fuse box. I'm thinking about going with the capped inline fuse holders since I'm not keen on putting the box either in the tool pouch area or by the battery.

Len,

Do you know if the box would fit in the original spot on an '85 650 Maxim? I've got a co-worker who has one and still has the original fuse box. I figure I can always give it to him if it'll fit.

Thanks for the input guys,
mikeg

 

I hear you about the moisture, Mike, but when I had a close look at the gasket there seemed to still be small openings around the actual lugs so thought it would be worth a try. The box is just so much cleaner looking than the individual fuses, and if I want to add heated grips and maybe a vest to that would mean even more individual fuses...

 

Hey Mike, on the 650 Maxim's you have pretty much the same issue as on the 750 Maxim's (their frames, seat pans, and airboxes are really close to being the same), but if you move the replacement seat box a little bit from the stock positions (further towards the center and rear of the bike, while still staying on the airbox lid) then it will clear the bottom of the seat pan.

 

After giving this some thought, I think I am going to be taking the individual inline fuse route. From all the information shared here and in the "how to install a fusebox" thread, the modern fusebox would be a very tight fit on a 750 Maxim and it sounds like the cover could be broken after a good bump or two down the road.

Thanks to all who shared. Share your progress with us, Mike, and I'll do the same.

 

Thanks Len, I'll let my co-worker know when he goes to give it a try.

Hack,

I'll certainly let you know. I'm picturing a thin piece of wood covered with liquid vinyl and with holes cut out for the capped in-line fuses to sit in, maybe with a little adhesive to keep them from popping out. Then screw that to the air filter cover. I plan to work on it this evening, I'll post pictures.

Does anybody think that would cause heat issues? I don't plan to make it deep enough to seat the whole fuse. And I figure I can leave spaces between the fuses as well. Maybe even have space around the fuse holder itself so that it only comes in contact with the wood on the ends but not the sides.

mikeg

 

Interesting. I placed my replacement box (from Len) in the original spot and have not had any clearance issues at all. I checked it with some chalk to see if it was hitting and no issues.

Mike I assume you are worried abut heat generated at the fuse? Should not be a big concern - they shouldn't get more than a bit warm at most. If they get hot you are having other issues.

 

If you have the box already, install it. there's enough clearance there unless the box sit's higher then 1-3/4 inches?

 

Bill, Stamplicker,

You guys have 650's, mine is a 750. Not having played with a 650, I can't say for sure but that could be the difference.

mikeg

 

Agreed Mike I should have been more clear - I was surprised at Len's statement about 650s and clearance...

 

Not sure how far along you are, Mike, but I had an idea for you. I have been giving this project some thought for a while, and when planning the use of individual fuses, I picked up an outdoor plastic electrical box cover the make the cut outs for the fuse holders. I thought this would be better than wood or a sheet of metal. I was working on scribing it out, but was trying to put in six fuses and ran out of room on the cover. For four fuses, however, you should be good to go.

 

Thanks for the suggestion Hack. I want to put in 6 fuses myself. I figure I'd like heated grips and it wouldn't hurt to have at least one extra, just in case. But wnadering the hardware store sounds like a good idea.

mikeg

 

I have a 82 750 and I got one to fit in the stock location no problem. It also has a clear cover that screws on to the top.

 

Hack,

I went over to the hardware store and found a box extender for outlets and switches. They're what you would use to extend the depth of an existing box if you were adding sheetrock.

I got the 3/8" one and drilled 6 holes for the wires on each of the long sides. I only have 3 of the 6 capped ATM inline fuse holders that I need but they take up 1/2 of the space. Once I get the other 3, hopefully Monday, I'll take a picture of it.

mikeg-

 

Losd,

I appreciate it but I've already gone a different route.

Thanks though,
mikeg

 

Nice job Losdinspace

 

Here is what I have sone so far: I have bought some inline fuse holders, a double sized outdoor electrical plate, and a piece of plumbing tubing



I have cut the plate so that is can sit over the fuse holders and have the cap peak through the opening. The fuse holders will be in a row. The tubing will be used to make standoffs for the mounting screws, and the plan is to mount this on the airbox lid.

Right now I'm planning five fuses, but there may be room for six.

How is yours coming, Mike?

 

Mine cost less then $20. Ten minutes with wiring and it was done with a pro look. The fuse blocks hold either 4 or 8 fuse depending on what one you get. You will spend more money with the fuse holders and more time. Plus you will not need plumbing supplies.

 

Silly question, but why not purchase the one from Chacal which *comes* *with* *the* *fuses* for $13.95 and has two extra fuses??

 

Actually Biff, I did buy one from Chacal, very nice looking box but it's a tad too high for the '82 Maxim anywhere near where the original fuse box went. I didn't want to run it back to the tool box area or beside the battery. I'm hoping to have pictures of my solution by this weekend.

mikeg

 

Hmmmm.

I kind of assumed that, as he stocked them to that purpose, they must fit. They had better, I just ordered two, one for my 550 and one for my 650.

 

My understanding is that it WILL work for the 650 but I haven't heard about the 550.

mikeg

 

They WILL fit!! Just not EXACTLY in the same location as where the stock fuse box fits! You'll have to play around with it and move it an inch or so this way, maybe a 1/2-inch that way. The easiest "custom-fit" part you'll ever install!!!

 

Thanks Chacal.

Mine arrived today and I was trying to position the one onto the 550. It looks like I am going to have to do some minor sculpting to make things fit as the mount points for the 550 airbox that I have, have slightly raised points, kind of like a washer only molded into the rubber. This makes it so the box doesn't fit flat and the gasket isn't thick enough to compensate. No big deal though, minor surgery to the airbox to cut those level. The seat did fit over the box just fine.

 

Hey Tumble, on the 550's this is the way to do the install:

http://www.xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=14200.html

 

Sweet, thanks. I wouldn't have thought to remove the support. I try to avoid making structural changes to things since I usually don't have a clue what I am doing.