Pulling motor without the aid of a manual....

I have a couple quick questions.... Getting ready to pull my motor and I don't have a clymers or other manual..
I am assuming I need to remove the swingarm/driveshaft from the motor so I can get it out of the frame...correct??
Next, what size is the nut that bolts the swingarm to the frame? I'll need to go buy a big-azz socket or wrench and I want to make sure I get the right size..the first time
Any other pointers to make the job easy for one guy? I will probably lay the bike on it's side, remove the lower engine mounting bolts front and rear and then lift the frame off...

 

You don't have to remove the swing arm, just pull back the rubber boot and remove the bolts, (not that you need it but I think the swing arm nuts are 32mm & an allen key, of course.)
Removing the bolts from the right of the motor & laying the bike on it's right side is my prefered method of removal, you can do it yourself if the wheels / forks are removed first.
BTW remove the clutch cable bracket & the oil filter.
Good luck.

 

thanks Wiz
I did end up removing the swingarm (27mm nut on my 750) and also removed the U joint on the motor and the oil filter. Of course saying (typing) that took about 20 seconds while getting the oil filter off alone, took me 30 min. It finally came off with the aid of a torch and vise grips....but now I need a new bolt to hold the oil filter on .I drained the oil first, which was more like oily gas than oil....all 5+ quarts of it. 8O .
I did remove the bolts from the right side, laid it down on it's right side...and proceeded to fight the #$)@($ for about an hour and a half. Stood it up, moved the engine a little to the right, laid it down...fought some more...this went on for about 90 minutes and I was just about ready to call it a night when I stood her up once more and with a little finesse, nudged the motor to the left side of the frame, then lifted it out out of the left side of the bike :roll: razzin' mazzin mizzer fud nuckin :evil:

oh well....it's out and now i can start the cleanup job. Good thing I didn't have a manual....I'm sure their directions: " Remove engine mounting bolts. Remove driveshaft. Remove oil filter. REMOVE ENGINE." would have just ticked me off more!! LOL

 

Do you have any "in progress" pictures? I'm getting ready to pull mine and they would be helpful. Thanks.

 

when it's time to put it back in, get a case of beer and call some buddys over

 

I just pulled my 750 Seca engine today, laid it on the right side, wedged the engine "up" in the frame, removed the Gaiter, then just picked up the frame which had both tires. No swingarm removal, no beer, and by myself.

I'm going to make some kind of engine hook to put it back in with everything standing vertical. I don't see how anyone could wedge the motor back in without scratching the new paint.

 

heck I'll even throw in a pizza too!!
Sorry wesley..no pics, I was too busy trying to get the motor out to think of taking pics..lol. Like polock said, if you have some buddies that can lend a hand, it might be worth some beer and pizza!

I wasn't too concerned about pulling the swing arm since I was going to have to remove it sooner or later to clean and paint it...

 

I tried to pull my motor tonight and the darn thing fell over on its right side while trying to jostle the engine around. I actually contemplated leaving it there and pulling the frame off. Wish I'd realized that would have worked. I tried the method in the manual, this method probably works fine if you're the Incredible Hulk. Hulk I am not and will revisit engine removal with her laying on her side after I take the oil filter off.

 

yeah when i removed the engine on my 550 i took an old pillow set the bike on the right side after removing the bolts lifted the frame rigth off with no problems i geuss i got lucky. i can pick my egine straight up and hopefully once its all painted that will be the easiest way to get it back in. if not i will have to lay her on the side but that might scratch that paint. i think as long as you havce a decent amount of power behind your lifts youll be fine putting it back in. are you having your engine soda blasted?