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HOW do i make a great hamburger

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by stevetibb2000, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. stevetibb2000

    stevetibb2000 Member

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    im trying to impress alot of my Biker budys with some good ol barbecue

    i want to know how to make a great Hamburger in about an hour from now
     
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    Some of the guys like to mix alittle french onion soup mix in the meat and alittle A1 Steak sauce. You could chop your own onions and go that route. It just is alot better than plain hamburger
     
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    Invite over some hoochie girls to serve the chips and beer.

    Then, it won't matter what the burgers taste, look, or feel like, and everyone will be duly impressed with your meat anyway!
     
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    A little late, I think, but ... I take the meat and add a good dose of worchestershire sauce, white pepper, light garlic - I usually use the powder for burgers, and if I'm in a spicy mood, some red pepper. You can also add onion (powder) but I usually don't.

    Chacal, you dawg ...

    Bouncy bimbos are for those young folks, not us old farts. Heck, you could be talking about my daughter!! <grin>
     
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    Teriyaki sauce. Mix it in until it won't hold any more.

    Another option would be powdered mustard.

    Hey, food thread!
     
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    You guys are making me hungry !
     
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    Don't you have a problem with the meat breaking up if you put in that much teryiaki?

    I'm iffy on mustard. Gotta be in the right mood.

    Oh, and I forgot the cheese ... cheddar and provolone, bacon and avocado.
    <drool>
     
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    Take a piece of white bread and cut the crust off. Break it up and put it in the bottom of a bowl. Add a little milk and stir/press with a fork until it becomes a uniform soggy piece of bread. (will keep them moist even to well done). Add about 2 table spoons of A-1 and then your meat (1lb) . Knead it until bread is incorporated. Make 3 or 4 equal size balls from it. stick your thumb in each ball. Put Blue Cheese in the hole. Close the hole up and pat them out to patties. Make a slight depression in the middle (like your making a donut, only don't go very deep with the hole). Salt and pepper to taste. Cook on a hot grill. Grill you buns and onions to. When nearly done, but some blue cheese on top to melt. Cover with grilled onions, pickles and some brown mustard. Serve with some ice cold brew of your choice.

    Now wipe the drool off your chin and get to cooking.
     
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    (homer voice) huuuhuuuhhuuuu, mmmmmmm, burgers, and tumble weed biff, can i meet you hoochie mamma of a daughter :D nvm, i've already got a prom date... takin her in my dad's new 08 chevy crew cab..... 2500 hd, 6.0, chrome chrome chrome, dvd player.., and my date aint to shabby either, nothnig could bring me down.... oh wait, i paid 248 for an aluminum boat anchor... if i only had a boat...

    but yep, burgers sure sound good. we cook 'em plain jane, cept we use our own farm grown angus that we hand select and use top notch local butchers that only have the highest standards of quality... sounds good huh?
    actually, i lke a good charlette burger than angus... do u guys know what a charlette is? or do you know that good and real hamburger comes from steers, not beef cows? well im ranting... yep, so how bout them redwings?
     
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    Using a 1/3 of a pound of 80/20 beef.
    Make TWO 1/6 and place them together, while doing this add some cheese in between.
    Its a famous burger in Philly I think, saw it on TV and tryed it.
     
  11. chacal

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    Speaking of steers..................did anyone else ever see the "Jack-in-the-Box" commercial about their 100% pure sirloin burgers, and why they were better than the competitor's 100% Angus burgers (in reference to Hardee's burgers)........................it was hilarious, and Hardee's actually sued Jack-In-The-Box to prevent them from running the commercial.......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx5DPi7GtcM
     
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    Len, We don't have JIB here, but that commercial made me laugh my angus off...
     
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    WOW a lot of good Replys on this but all a little to late but thanks ill keep all this in mind

    Hamburgers
    Seasoning Salt
    steak seasoning
    Galic Power
    fresh ground black pepper
    Yum Yum

    then i had talipa fish
    marinaded with OIL
    LOTS AND LOTS of LEMON PEPPER
    and LEMON JUICE
    BELL PEPPERS
    It was Awesome and very tasty

    HOT DOGs
    where HOT DOGs cant go wrong there

    this was my first time ever barbecuing

    All the GUYS liked them AND there WOMEN too bounce bounce

    all with chips and dip
    corn on the cob
    mashed potatoes
    vegetables dip like finger foods
    soda no beer dont want any drama
    SOY BEANS
    Rice

    it was all grate thanks all
     
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    Shooter
    You stud you. Your always making the moves on inmate's daughters.

    As far as the burgers go:
    80/20 beef
    Add a couple eggs
    Add a little instant oatmeal (plain)
    Worcetsershire sause
    A little chile paste
    small amount of Sam Adams black Lager

    This rocks guys and they DON'T fall apart.
     
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    I know it's late, but I sautee a diced bell pepper and a diced onion with a little soy sauce at the end of cooking. Allow it to cool. Mix the peppers and onions with 2 lbs. of 97% lean ground beef and about a 1/4 cup of guldens spicy mustard. make your patties and grill away. Enjoy!
     
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    serve sushi
     
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    I had Krystal cheesburgers (i.e. "gut bombers") for dinner.

    And no hoochie girl at the drive thru, just some sullen angus burger with big tattoo's on his arm adn neck, looks like he was fresh off of cellblock "C"............
     
  18. schmuckaholic

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    Not in my experience -- wet mustard, yes. Here is a thread from about ten years ago that might be considered ontopic. Another one suggested using crackers or fine-ground oatmeal.
     
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    That's Okay, Great_Buffalo, don't worry about Shooter.

    They'll have to be able to find a body to prove anything ... Speaking of hamburger, anyone remember "Fried Green Tomoatoes"? Hmmmm, might have to try some different seasonsings. Doesn't everything go better with beer? Just remember, Good friends will kill someone for you. Great friends will help you hide the body.

    Meanwhile, I'll be busy parting out his air-cooled 700 - sans frame and engine with SN, of course ...
     
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    Edit

    Who let this guy in the door?
    :arrow:
     
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    i like sushi... yum!
     
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    Me too! Like burgers too! Like chicken, fish, steak!

    Yum yum yum!
     
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    I would sue them too, ive notcied like in the hebrew national commercials, how they use the :good: meat for their hotdog, the front half of the steer, because butts are badd, when actually the better part of the steer is the back half.... like in a pig, the back half contains the ham and loin..
    jack and the box could be seving the sirloin part of a 10 year old Holstein cow thats no good for milking any more, whereas at least that other resturant is serving real angus... a better steer made for meat, holsteins were born to milk, they're junk
    go hardees and sue jack and the box for all they're worth, "angus" isnt a part of a steeer, its a far superior breed of steer thats better for a burger, this is false advertisementish

    and Rick, please had a word with the rude person
    sorry biff
     
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    All in good humor Scooter. No harm, no foul. I thought my response would show the humor.<grin>

    That commercial was hilarious.

    We were living in California when the big JIB scare about e-coli hit back in the 90's. Suddenly JIB's business dropped off to nothing. Me, I started to eat there more often at that point. Think about it: who do you think had the most stringent meat quality rules and enforcement, toughest health inspections, etc., after that? JIB, of course. They were under a microscope. Best time to eat there worry free.
     
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    Admittedly Im tired.....did this post get deleted? Was he ranting against the original question? Did I miss my chance to be righteously indignant??

    I MISS OUT ON EVERYTHING!!! :cry:
     
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    Yes, I sent a PM to Rick. I had hoped he killed the account altogether, but apparently he just deleted the post.

    I'm thinking you and Hound could go back and edit your posts to remove his quoted post... as long as it stays up there, he's won.

    Obvious Troll is being Obvious.

    Now, about those Teriyaki burgers... anybody up for fish tacos? I know they're not hamburgers, but hey -- it's a food thread!
     
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    That was definitely one of the funniest commercials. Jack did a great job with a play on words. Too bad Hardee's didn't have the same sense of humor and may have perhaps.... do I dare say it... come off as Angus holes....
     
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    You know, the first time someone mentioned those, I thought it was a joke. I still haven't been able to bring myself to eat them, because even though I turned 30 a few months ago, I have the sense of humor of a 14 year old.



    To remain sort of on topic, there's a company I don't recall the name of right now that's selling 'gourmet' Italian sausages around here now, flavors like apple chicken etc. They're delicious.
     
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    shrimp stuffed jalepenos wrapped in maple bacon...... hmmmmmmm bacon ....... and if you grill them cook a few till the pepper is barely brown / black and hand those to the people you dont like :) its a double burn on the way in and out :)

    you can also candy them in a little maple syrup on the grill
     
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    Ass.Fault, we have a place here (Minneapolis) that's been making the "Jucy Lucy" for something like 50+ years - Matt's Bar (Web site's pretty pathetic, but the burgers are great!)

    Hmmnn. Now I'm getting hungry for one... :?

    Baja Sol does these and they're actually pretty darn good (for fast food fish...)
     
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    hey the guy wrote bad things towards my sexuality to me you can come over and get a great hamburger from me too so can every one else
     
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    All that teryaki and A1 sauce and mustard kill the true taste of a burger. It's the taste of the meat that's important...nice charred beef. Just add some salt and pepper and some good ole fashioned tap water to the ground beef. Mix it all up and form into patties. Don't worry about them breaking apart, a well oiled grill grate will prevent that. But a burger isn't a burger without cheese. I like pepper jack melted over the top of the patty. Throw that on some lightly toasted buns, then top with whatever. Slice some onions in a bowl and top with beer. Let it simmer on the pit while you're cooking away on your burgers. That's the ultimate topper. The trick to a great hamburger is to not mask the flavor of the beef.
    The other trick is to knock back a few cold ones first. Then it really doesn't matter what they taste like. But who's going to stop drinking long enough to flip them?
     
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    Hmmm. Doesn't all that cheese cover up the taste of the meat? <grin>

    Charred beef, the blacker stuff you find so tasty, has the greatest amount of carcinogens and things called AGEs - Advanced Glycoxidation/Glycation Endproducts. They are probably a major contributer to the causation of diabetes, although the evidence is in no way conclusive. At the very least, they make diabetes much worse. They are certainly strong contributers to cardiovascular disease and renal (kidney) disease. (see links below)

    Look those things up. You'll swear off of high fructose corn syrup forever, along with a few other things and add years to your life. There should be class action law suits against the people putting the HF corn syrups in food and drinks, along with the FDA for allowing them.

    Other places high in AGEs ... that nice brown bread crust, the black part of meats, things like that. The more carbs and proteins are cooked, the more of these they have.

    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/co ... /29/6/1420
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15281050

    For further edjumacation, search google for "Advanced glycation end products" and/or "advance glycoxidation end products" and ignore the fluff pieces. I had one site that had an excellent write-up of the issue in layman terms, but I can't remember it. You can also search for "the mallard effect" or "the mallard reaction" I forget which.

    Basically it boils down to: the more you cook them, the worse they are for you, even though that carmelized fat tastes so d*mned good!


    Michael
     
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    Man biff.... you made me really not want a cheeseburger now :p
     
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    Don't mean to sound all existential, but life is a terminal disease. The minute you're born you're slowly dying. So since you're gonna keel over anyway, why not enjoy a piece of charred cow (or swine) in the meantime...

    My personal recipe is a bit of Tone's Canadian steak seasoning mixed with the hamburger (that stuff is friggin addictive... they have it at Sams), then a dusting of Head Country championship steak seasoning when the meat is on the fire.. I season the fire too.. Makes the neighbors hungry :-D
     
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    I'M WITH STEREO ON THIS ONE......
     
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    I use the Canadian/montreal steak seasoning too at times, but prefer worchestershire. Yes, life is terminal, but some lives are more terminal than others. Cook it a bit less and lengthen your life. Just enough to kill the bugs and then enjoy! <g>

    Sorry, Tennsouthernbelle, they do taste soooo good ...

    Here is the site I couldn't remember earlier.
    http://www.mendosa.com/blog/?p=67

    Here is one he cites with a very good mix of laymen's stuff as well as touching on the harder science underneath.
    http://andersonclan.us/andersonclan_top/ages.html

    It is long but a fascinating (and somewhat scary) read. Anyone who has diabetes or knows someone who does should read this.
     
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    Hmmm, how do you make a great burger?

    Well, first of all, you have to start with the right meat. Sirloin (93/7) is probably too lean. Chuck (80/20) is too fatty. I would suggest Ground Round (85/15). And, I like a coarser grind.

    One other guy (ktcubed?) suggested using a panade which is a mixture of bread and milk. This will help hold the burger together and it helps with the moisture.

    Others have suggested A-1, Teriyaki, or other additions. By all means use them if so inclined. Other choices are Onion soup mix, chopped onions, chopped peppers. Etc. Again, use them to your hearts content.

    Personally, I like some nice cracked pepper, a little bit of mustard (a binder). Grill it on a slow fire to bring it up to temp and then sear it.

    Or, my other favorite way is to find a woman who can cook....
     
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    Schooter, the Hebrew National commercial is not saying that the meat from the back half of the cow is bad, they are saying that the hot dog is Kosher. This is quite an undertaking to keep products Kosher. There is even a special way that the cattle need to be slaughtered. There needs to be a Rabbi on location at the slaughterhouse to bless the cattle before they are slaughtered. They knock the cow out with a stun gun (Not like the one my date carried in her purse last night (different story) this one uses a .22 caliber shell to fire a bolt into the skull of the cow rendering it unconcious)). It is then hung upside down by a rear leg and has its heart skewered with a long knife through the front of the chest cavity between the front legs allowing it to bleed out. All this to maintain a Kosher rating by the National Rabbinical Council.

    Incidentally, did anyone else find it assinine when Burger King introduced their breakfast bagels and you got ham, bacon or sausage on them?
     
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    Actually, the bolt doesn't render them unconscious, it kills them. It is a very quick, humane way to kill a large animal like a horse or cow.

    The Kosher way is prepare an animal for eating is to hang it like alkasmeltzer describes and then taking a long perfectly sharp knife draw it across the throat to all the animal to bleed out. The animal must be alive to keep with tradition.

    I am not implying that the Kosher way is or isn't more humane than using the bolt.

    Just wanted to clear up a couple of things.

    Dan

    Now, where is that woman who knows how to cook.....
     
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    That's it. It's burgers for dinner tomorrow. It'll be sunny and 89F so why not?

    Back to the real topic here- You can't have a party without women. No little hoochie-momma's either. I like 'em older, wiser, hungrier and still fairly "together" physically (but they don't have to be perfect). These are the fun, tough girls that make a party a good time. Cougar anyone?

    Me-ow, baby.
     
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    Your to picky sushi, hoochie, older, wiser, hungrier, I like em all.
    What ever doesn't suit you send my way.
    :wink: :twisted: :wink:
     
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    We all can't die in a plane crash, so burn my meat and give me another cold one. Life's too short to eat nasty food and kiss ungly women.
     
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    Hey, even the ugly ones need some loving.

    And, they really show their appreciation.

    Yeee Haaaa!!!!
     
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    wo we should have more food topics more offten

    this weekend i might be doing another one the guys keep calling me up
     
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    Well then, tap a keg and send some invites to a couple of sorority houses ...
     
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    Some people ask me "aren't you afraid you'll get hurt or killed on your motorcycle?" I tell them I could slip in the shower tomorrow morning. Or I could eat an overdone burger. Do what you enjoy and take the precautions that you're comfortable with. Personally, I like my burgers with onion and garlic mixed into it and cooked until it has a hint of pink. I hate it when the grill flames up and chars the outside.

    Oh, and as far as eating sushi. I haven't found any place that cooks it enough for my taste! :lol:

    mikeg
     
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    California rolls. They generally use fake crab in them, which is by definition cooked.
     
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    Don't eat fake sushi...

    Not all sushi is actually raw...

    Best sushi I ever had...

    Spam rolls in hawaii... (not really, but they were better than I thought and you could by them in any convience store).

    The spamlets I cooked for breakfast were much better. Lips and tongues never tasted so go.
     
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    Actually, as I understand it, sushi has nothing to do with the fish; that's referred to as sashimi. Sushi refers to the rice they use. (I just confirmed this on Wikipedia.)

    Ah, spam musubi. A man after my own heart, you are. Love the stuff. That and Loco Moco. Two scoop sticky rice, one scoop mac!
     

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