How to torque front and rear tire/rim

The picture isn't 100% clear to me. But isn't #3 still inside the rim assembly?
I think all the parts between 4 and 6 are contained within the wheel assembly between the outside bearings. Yes I believe all the bearings appear to be turning freely without issue. I was suprised how clean everything looked when I wiped them down a touch.
I definatly have 27 and 24. You can see them in the pictures. I also have number 2. You can see it in the pictures. I may be missing #3? Should you be able to see it inside the rim without taking things apart? I assembled my bike last night. I'd have to tear down again to check. I didn't take any pictures looking into the rim........ I should have I guess.

I just looked and I kind of have a picture in this area. I think #3 points between this bearing and the main spacer........... am I correct?
I don't see anything here if that is where it does go.
http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa26 ... 0_1330.jpg

 

I just did mine yesterday, I have a 650 but its the same set up, that #3 is inside the hub, I took my drum off and a # 3 never droped out # 3 is not the main spacer, there should only be a spacer on the outside #27 and also one washer that goes on the inside with the cam rod which is # 17.
No washers or spacers go on the outside of the bearings.
From looking at the pics your axle needs to go in about half a inch.
You can also spin the wheel with the drum cover off to see if it its teh diff not lined up I doubt its that, try putting the axle in and rotating it and see if the bearings are moving smoothly. It just looks like you need to tap the axle in, use a wood block, I had to tap mine in, make sure you take like a scotch bright pad or somthing and clean off the rust and stuff off the axle.
I know mine was dragging also, my pads were off the shoe and the were only had an 1/8th of an inch of material thickness left. metal on metal. I saw that you still have some pad left, mabey it is to low and need to be replaced? I cant tell from the shoe pic.

 

I am a little confused about two things.
First, number 17. Where exactly is that at? Is that part of the pinned joint? It seems to be part of the brakes only. Is it part of this?
http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa26 ... 0_1329.jpg

Moveover, the entire shaft spins very freely. If I losten the pinch bolt and back the castle nut off a few turns it rotates very easily with no binding. The wheel is also spinning very freely.

I honestly do not get hammering the pin in (I did that yesterday). As soon as you start to tighten the castle nut it just starts pulling the pin untill the shoulder his the drum housing, which pushes on the pin, which in turn pushs the rim against the cast aluminum housing. Everything simply goes back to where it was at before.
The only way in my head this would not happen is if you tighten the pinch bolt first, or add a spacer in the system after the drum section. Or else it will just pull the threads right back out. Am I missing something. Is there supossed to be a way to adjust the rear wheel side to side or something?

 

# 17 is under the shoes, its what the break linkage connects to.
Put the axle in all the way so everything is all togeather touching, and then tighten the castle nut, then the pinch bolt.
Do you have a washer or spacer remaining after you put it back togeather or somthing?
Can you take pics of how you are puting the hub back together?



BTW you dont even mess with #3 unless you take the bearings out #3 is underneath the bearings. there is no spacer in the hub except #17 that fits underneath the cam rod.

 

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa26 ... r65/XJ750/

In this set of pictures I show the "washers" I have on the outside. They are obviously loose in this picture, but this is how I have it tightened up in this order.

 

Oh I see you did have the whole wheel off, I just had the drum cover off mine. Mabey it is your final drive splines not lined up or missing somthing.... :?

 

There's a spacer about 3" long that goes in the final drive unit that has fallen out on mine before and is easy to miss getting back in. It does not show up in the picture of the rear wheel, but is no. 1 in the picture of the final drive unit.

 

I looked for a picture of the final drive and I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for. Wouldn't it be obviously really loose if I were missing a spacer of that size?

 

Ya I see a 3 inch spacer that goes in the hub, Im pretty sure you would know it wasnt in there. Hard piece to misplace.

 

Here is a Smatic of the final drive

 

In your first picture that shows the final drive with the splines, in the center where the axle goes thru there should be a spacer about 3" long, it keeps the wheel form bottoming out in the splines. If you stick your finger in the hole for the axle it should stick on your finger and come out when you remove your finger. It is notorious for dropping out and rolling away while you have the wheel off. From looking at your picture, it doesn't look like its in there.

 

No 3 is a spacer & slides on the axel with the long spacer, it goes against the bearing & stops it binding.
It is shown red on this diagram.

 

If you see the #3 how the line shows it it underneath the bearing, I took mine apart yesterday, no spacer or washer on the outside of the bearing.
My wheel spins nice a smooth.

 

would you have a diagram for the front for a 1982 xj 650 maxim ?

 

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorc ... 82/o/m8214

 

Can you please tell him in a picture which number you are refering to?
Is it in the "rear wheel" diagram? Or the "final drive" diagram?
I'll take all of this apart again this weekend. I drove it for about 60 miles last night with no issues as is, but I feel something is still amiss.

 

If you look at XJBull81's diagram of the final drive, it is No. 1 up in the upper left hand corner. In your photobucket pictures, the first picture is of the final drive with the splines facing the camera, in that picture, the spacer goes in the hole for the axle you see in the center of the spline side. Stick your finger in that hole and if its in there you should be able to get it stick on your fingertip and pull it out. I have a spare final drive and I looked it last night, and I don't think your spacer is in there. The axle hole on the final drive is actually somewhat larger than the spacer so it will easily fall out and roll off. Mine has done this a couple of times when I had the wheel off. Let me know and if needed, I can take pictures for you.

I took some rough measurements of the spacer last night, it is approx 2 23/32" long with OD approx 7/8' and ID approx 5/8".

 

Perfect info. I'll get around to it this weekend. If its been missing, I've been riding it for years like that. Interesting. I admit. That hole in the final drive does look rather large.

PS~ I must be crazy because I do not see an item #1 in any picture for the REAR tire.
#1 in the rear wheel assembly is the rim.
#1 on the rear drive is the gear case.
Do you mean # 71?

 

Sorry, you're right, I was using the reference number in the XJ750 service manual picture for the final drive and not the one in his post. The spacer is in the upper left corner of his picture and is the only item outside the dotted line box. I can not make out the reference number. I'll go take a picture of it and if I'll see if I can figure out how to post it.

 

Alright a follow up for you guys who have been SUPER helpful. After looking at the prints and talking to you guys it seems that I may have been missing the spacer/collar #71 in my final drive (p/n 90387-172A5-00). I was given the info there should be a loose spacer in the final drive that is nearly 3 inchs long that off set the tire from the final drive to keep them from binding as you torque the castle nut. Plus it seems to space the tire over away from the drive shaft (rubbing is another issue I have been having). Well I took everything apart and I sure DON'T see a spacer in there that is the correct size. Its actually VERY obvious something is missing when you put the main bolt through and see the gap around it. So I called my local dealership and they will have it in just a few days all for just over seven bucks. I took some pictures to show the issue. Once again, thanks guys. You seriously may have saved my life on this one.
I have been riding this bike for nearly 8 years without this spacer. I think I changed the rear tire when I graduated highschool (2000). That must have been when I misplaced the spacer. Then I went to college. I took the bike to college the last two years. Rode it off and on. Then I got a job and the bike has basically sat for 4 years with VERY little ride time. I just decided to randomly check the rear castle torque spec after I changed the front tire so I could start riding again. That is when I found I had a problem. Crazy. Once again, thanks all.

First 3 pictures are the area of interest.

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa26 ... r65/XJ750/