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starter button fell off?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by JoshuaTSP, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. JoshuaTSP

    JoshuaTSP Member

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    it still works but no button to push???
     
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    They do that every 27 years or so.

    Order up a new one from Chacal. Easy fix.
     
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    What are they, like $.05 :D
     
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    A bit more, but it includes the spring and little metal cup that will soon fall out too.
     
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    super glue !!!
     
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    I don't have the button....must have fallen off while riding.
     
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    I had an old lefthand control I took the horn button apart, worked like a charm.
     
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    I was thinking about using a pencil eraser! :D
     
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    lol you can by passs it and hook it up to any toggle switch hidden under neath head light.
     
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    How does the original button stay in the hole?

    glue?
     
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    Well, on mine it was shaped like an old Top Hat, with a metal button on the bottom. Its held in a bracket you have to open to put it in, little bending involved.
     
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    This is what I assumed. 8)

    If it were a little bigger, I'd be able to manufacture my own.
    Are these buttons standard on most bikes?

    $9.50 to buy the whole assembly. $6+ to ship it.
     
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    Get 2, the horn button is the same and it's about to fail too.

    Don't put a switch in a different location. It's a safety issue - stall in traffic and you need to be able to start with your hands on the bars.
     
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    I doubt horn buttons fail at anywhere near the same rate that the start buttons does. Think about the ratio of pushing the horn button to pushing the start button. The start button is seeing quite a bit more action and stress.

    As far as the safety issue. Come on now, we are talking about a motorcycle not an airplane. Even if your bike dies in 70MPH traffic and you are in the middle lane, you can coast down on a white line and you can still simply be passed on either side.

    Not to mention, about the only thing that will make your bike die and still be able to re-start it instantaneously is something like popping the clutch. If you are moving along in traffic and your bike just dies, you are probably going to have to do more than just push a readily available button to get the bike going again.
     
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    I'm sure you can still make your own. I was trying to find some kind of stock that I could use myself. I was thinking of using a nylon spacer that I saw at HD for about 69 cents. It is longer and a little wider than the widest part of the button, so I was going to chuck it into a drill and trim it down with a knife or file.

    In the mean time, I placed the horn button in place of the starter button. Luckily, I still have all my pieces and I have Krazy Glued the broken button back together. I am going to put it into the horn position tonight. We will see how it holds up.
     
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    The problem with buttons is they always fall off.
     
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    You mean every thirty years or so? Yeah, I could see that as a real problem.
     
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    Yeah, mine kept falling off, too. It fell off two summers ago and replaced it with another from a parts switch. That first one lasted only for at least the past 10 years that I've had the bike but I don't know how long it only lasted before that. Since I replaced it, it has only lasted the two years. I think I'll probably start looking for another replacement so when it falls off AGAIN, in 20 or 30 years I'll be ready, if I can still ride at age 70, or can still find the parts at age 70 or even remember what to do at that age.

    Dave Fox
     
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    I was making a very obscure reference to a tv commercial from years ago where they kept repeating "the problem with buttons is they always fall off".
     
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    Light turns green, you let out clutch too fast, bike stalls. You're digging around somewhere else for the start button. Cager barreling down the road behind you only sees the green light. 2 seconds is the difference between being a hood ornament and riding away. That is the safety issue.

    That's why the starter switch isn't built into the ignition like on a cage.
     

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