Turn Signal Conversion issue

So I bought new turn signals for the bike. They are a two wire system just like stock. Well I installed them and they only go on steady. I tried reversing the wires but same thing. Does anybody have a suggestion. The bulbs are single filament just like stock. Not led. Standard light bulb. I am at a loss.

PLease help!

nick

 

Check the wattage of the bulbs included. Someone suggested in another topic that replacement signals often come with odd wattage bulbs.

I need to check mine and my wiring my self.

 

Do the front bulbs come on at the same time the rear ones. The stock flasher relay does require the current from both bulbs to work. If all bulbs are good and light up when the signal switch is activated the next thing to do is clean the signal switch. It is possible to have a bad flasher relay but not likley.

 

I have only changed the back two turn signals so far. Prior to installing the new blinkers everthing flashed correctly. With the config of new blinkers on the rear and stock on the front the lights do light at the same time. but neither front or back on both sides are flashing just staying on solid.

 

Can you put the old bulbs in the new lights? Sounds like the wattage of the new bulbs is not high enough to make the flasher work. Another solution is to replace the flasher with a electronic one. It will have to be modified to work, they are not usually plug and play.

 

Got it to work with changing the bulbs. Stepped up the wattage and everthing flashes as it should. thanks guys for you suggestions. Glad I didnt have to mess with the flasher.

 

I opened up my 750's front signal and found a 3157 in it.
So I promptly went and bought new 1156's. Put the pair in both front signals (for good measure), and no change

So I guess I'm gonna be hunting electrical gremlins as soon as I get a chance.

Is it possible the aftermarket replacement signal should have had an 3156 in it?

Glad nyoung got his working!

 

Glad you got it working Nick
Bob , the 3157 is a dual element bulb 29.6 watts and 8 watts. Both the 3156 and 1156 are 29.6 watts(the 3156 is a Krypton bulb, should be brighter). Either one should work with no problems. The 3157 should have a completely different base and won't fit in a 1156 socket. If all your bulbs are burning I would look at the flasher and signal switch on the handlebars.

 

You have to have the whole 4 Signal Lights Hooked-up or the System will think the 2 Fronts are OK and the 2 Rears are out.

Leaving the 2 fronts on and not blinking.

 

I could start my own thread if some of the simple checks don't fix it.

Yesterday the front right was lighting and no right blinking. Today it wasn't lighting at all. So i'm leaning toward gremlins or worse alternator

EDIT: good to know the 3156 is just a brighter version

 

So... I tear apart the headlight, the turn signal, etc.

Plugged right into left and left into right - Same problem - FRONT RIGHT not lighting or blinking - Its not the relay or flasher.

Then I dug deeper into the signal itself. I realize PO did a crap job splicing replacement signal into existing wires/sockets. No big surprise.
So I go and clean up the wires, new end bulbs, heat shrink, etc.

Theeeeeeeeen I realize the "single" filament socket that the signal should have been is in fact a "double". This would explain why the front right lite but did not blink.

So now I'm gonna try to hunt down a single socket assembly at Farm Fleet and/or Autozone. ARRRGGGHHH

 

But, YOU were able to sort-out the mess and solve the problem.

That's part of the reward for shaking-out bike-bugs.
Now, you know you've found the trouble.

That's enough to treat yourself to a Brew.

 

Well I don't drink but I definitely needed a cold shower when I was done.
90+ out 100+ heat index
No garage - Just a cement slab with a pop up shade/gazebo
Some good tools, some crappy tools (of course the important ones...)

I managed to rigged it back together and blinking. Bought a SINGLE filament assembly. Popped out the spring and wire. "Grounded" the frame of bulb (several wraps around and electrical tape). Its not a pretty as I would like it to be long term, but at 100+ Heat index and sweating buckets, it will do for now.

I do have a "conversion" question of my own.
I manged to get 2x Vetter WindJammer V fairings (will be able to make one good one out of them). Their intergrated front signals are dual filament style (1157). Is there a way to convert the XJ to using those bulbs? Our would I probably be doing the same "rigging" I did today?

To partially answer my own question: I do know there are aftermarket blinker kits for for converted to running/blinking and led use. Those are expensive and would have to wait till at least next year.

 

You can convert the XJ to using dual filament bulbs, all you would be doing is adding a "running light" which you could splice into the instrument bulb feed in the headlight shell.

I was going to offer you a pre-owned single-filament Yamaha signal gut or two, but it sounds like you have a better idea.

I've considered doing a "running light" thing myself but I'm always worried about confusing motorists. It might be less of a concern with a full fairing.

 

When the heat wave breaks (or the weekend) I want to work on my vetter trunk which will add 4x brake lights - assuming they all work...

I'll probably buy all 2157s and white or chrome paint the currently black plastic reflector well.

I just hope all the lights work and i LIKE the trunk. Should I put an inline fuse to just the trunk? If yes what size?