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Aftermarket foglights

Discussion in 'XJ Modifications' started by ryancdossey, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. ryancdossey

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    I have two led white fog lights that I am planning on adding to the maxim x to make me more visible. Plus I want a brighter/wider view. What going to be the easiest way to wire these in? I am going to do aftermarket led turn signals at the same time as well as a vapor tech led gauge (that will go on the blue aux cable).

    Not sure how to wire up the fog lights though or any tips on mounting them?


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2939wt_836
     
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    Want them on all the time with the headlight? Tap that wire to power a relay.

    they may not draw enough to require a relay but it's still not a bad idea.

    Mounting ideas really depend on where you want them. Tabs off the headlight bucket come to mind first.

    darkfibre has some much larger lights on his pumba project, might look at that.
     
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    I do want them on all the time and tabs off the bucket isn't a bad thought I was thinking a little lower like under the turn signals. Mounted to the forks somehow. But tabs may be easier. Is it hard to have my turn signals dimly lit as running lights as well but then brighten up when used to actually turn?
     
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    Maybe a tab off the turn signal mount then if you want them down there.

    You would need dual filament bulbs and sockets to get what you want on the turn signals. I have that for my rear lights. bright Brake/turn combo and a dim running light in the same housing one on each side.

    Not sure if you could adapt your current housing to a different light socket though.
     
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/230674935844?ss ... 3202wt_754

    these are the turn signals I went with and it says that they can be used as running lights? Any where you would recommend to get those tabs or is it something I will have to fabricate?

    Pretty new to this. I appreciate your help.
     
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    I like those led lights. I would tuck one in the front and one in the rear and add an accessory switch. I'd use them on dark roads and in dark parking lots to see the ground around the bike better.
     
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    I was planning on either something like that... or mounting them both forward but one far left and one far right so I can see along side me better. I think they'll look really good with the turn signals.
     
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    The tabs you'll likely have to make. A grinder and a drill should be all it takes tool wise.

    I think those lights you linked to are turn signal OR marker lights. Two wires. Unless they are grounding through the stalk which it doesn't say.
     
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    thanks for the heads up. I think you are right. How hard would it be to run it opposite of how it normally does? Where they are all on lit up. When i kick on my turn signal to go left the left ones go dark and come back on. So as opposed to flashing from off to on off to on. It would go from on to dark on to dark. Mean while the ride side stays lit?
     
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    Do you already have those lights? If so check to see if the ground to the housing. If they do then there is no issue doing what you want.

    If the yellow wire is power and the black ground then you'll be lighting them all at once.

    What you want to do should be possible. I'll have to think about it for a bit.
     
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    They are on their way from China... Couldn't justify spending over $100.00 when I could wait two weeks and get 4 of them for $25.00

    I will check that first thing when they get here.

    Let me know what you come up with for the always on and "off" flashing for turn.

    Thanks for your help!
     
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    You should be able to wire in a normally closed relay and have it controlled by the flasher relay. So under normal operation the lights will be lit and when you activate the flashers it will activate the relay, opening the circuit and making the bulb go dark. You would need a separate relay for each side.
     
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    That would work.

    You can also get it packed in a small box like this:
    [​IMG]

    I use it for the back of my bike. But you could just power the stop circuit constantly for your running lights and then tap the turn signals each side as noted. It'll do what you want.

    It's a trailer light controller. You can find them online for about $10.
     
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    So the trailer box would probably be the easiest way to go? Shoot it may just be easier to have them work like normal lol.

    How would I power the stop circuit constantly?
     
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    Yes it does what scubaroboto wrote but it's already packaged in a neat box.

    By tapping your tail light power for that connection instead of the brakelight. Basically power it from whatever source you want them to turn on with.
     
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    Interesting. That actually sounds really easy... So i would probably need two boxes? One for the Front lights and One for the rear? Then I would tap it off my tail lights running light line for both of them? (could that cause issues??)

    Then its just pretty much plug and play with the lights and other leads.

    Would this also eliminate the issues most guys have when they switch to led's where they can't get them to flash?
     
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    I see no reason you can't run your front and rear lights off one box.

    The stock flasher likely will not work with the LED's. You'd just need an electronic flasher or add enough resistance to the circuit to fool the one you have.
     
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    Could you send me a link for an appropriate flasher unit? I would only need one correct? or is the resistor way going to be easier?

    Also could you go into a tad more detail on the foglights with the power relay. where would I splice in?


    Newer to all this stuff. Once I know what to do my dad is an electrician. And the girl friends father is an engineer so we should be able to wire it up. Just trying to know what all I need and whats the best way to do this.
     
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    Metal_bob has a nice write up on the flasher, I believe it's linked in his signature.

    The resitor would be a matter of figuring up the right values and then adding it to the wire somewhere in the signal circuit. I'd add it near the stalks probably. If your autocancel works currently it won't with a different flasher.

    You'll need a wiring diagram for your bike.

    If you haven't done this sort of thing beofre I'd opt for the trailer box over the differnent relays. It's a bit simpler and neater to tuck away on the bike.

    Are you planning to run the factory rear brake lights in addition to these or just these?

    If you have a manual with a wiring diagram for your bike, scan the page and sent it to me. I'll mark it up with where to tap into and attach where and send it back.
     
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    I will look for his write up! I will be adding some sort of an led tail light as well sometime soonish. But that'll be a month or two probably. When I get home I'll look on my mac I have the pdf owners and repair manual I'll screenshot it for you. Not going to lie its guys that are as willing to help as much as you are that make owning this bike just that much more enjoyable.
     
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    Find that wiring diagram and make a list of lights you want where front/back and I'll make you a diagram to get the patched in and functioning how you want.

    I did a good deal of research on this before I added the trailer box. I have it scribbled in a notebook someplace. But the 700 wiring is likely different that the 650 that I have. Atleast colors. No matter. With a diagram we'll get it sorted.
     
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    EDIT: Here is my original semi-custom fog light install project.
    http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=28766.html


    These are the non-branded (solsticeX / Denali D1) LED lights I might pick up for my wifes scooter. (I have the Denali D2 original dual intensity kit).

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/290661976096?ss ... 6983wt_953

    This is the relay I got off eBay. You MAY have luck with electronic flashers bought at local auto stores. Note the extra wire goes to ground.

    [​IMG]

    This album shows how I mounted my LED "fog" lights to my forks (not the D2s but used the same bracket when I upgraded).
    http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/zz27 ... %20Lights/

    I simply made a flat 3 holes bracket using a hack saw, bench grinder and drill. I mounted it to the fender mounting bolts.
    [​IMG]

    Of coarse my original lights and the D2 brackets allow me to adjust them in all directions as needed.
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    It's almost time to leave for work, so I haven't had time to really read or think about your wiring ideas.

    Originally I used the AUX light switch that comes stock with my 82 750 Maxim (since I took off the extra AUX light). A simple fused power line + relay connection to the blue running light is the simplest way to add extra ALWAYS on with the key Lights.
     
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    Wow Thanks!!! All I can seem to find is the schematic is that what you were referring to Iwin? Or is there a different diagram.
     
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    that's it. I just need that page. You can email me PDF if you want.
     
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    Perfect! I will do that when I get off work. Thanks again man!
     
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    Maybe a bracket into the empty threaded holes under the head tube, by the horns?
     

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