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Rear wheel bearing seized to axle?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by zhalbert, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. mrcarb

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    Also, I want to add that I did try soaking it for days with rust penetrant without result. Burning it off was the last resort in my case.
     
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    it's always good to keep a few of these around for this sort of thing
     
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    Whoa! Taking over the patio every weekend to tear my bike apart has put me on thin ice with the wife already. Pretty sure explosives would push her over the edge...

    Just looking through the manual to be prepared. Providing I CAN get things apart, what kind of lube do I need for the bearings when putting it back together?
     
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    I use marine grade grease on the axel.
     
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    Is it possible to remove the shocks, swingarm and drive shaft from the drive assembly and then remove the wheel/drive/brake assemble as one piece? Then work with removing the drive and brakes without damage?
    A seized bearing can be removed from a axle without damaging the axle by busting the bearing assembly and cutting the inner race off the axle with a saw, cutting wheel or chisel. Use a chisel to bust the bearing by placing the chisel between the races and drive the balls out with a hammer providing you can get to it of coarse.
     
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    This is a good point. If it won't come out, and you have to resort to major destruction, then you likely will have several parts damaged. Remove the swingarm/wheel assembly whole and it will be much easier to disassemble it...or destroy it, which ever happens first. Removing the whole assemble it how I took mine apart, and put it back together. Then I torqued everything down properly.
     
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    8O Sweet.
     
  8. RickCoMatic

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    Use the HOLE Drilled through the Axle.
    BOLT a Short Length of CHAIN to the Axle.
    Attach a SLUGGING HAMMER to the Chain.

    Use the SLUGGING HAMMER to Dislodge the Axle.

    Rub the Bolt through a Washer.
    Add the Chain.
    Run the Bolt through the Axle.
    Attach other-end of Chain and Washer.
    Secure with a Nyloc Nut.

    Attach Slugging Hammer.
    Pull all slack out.
    Begin sliding Hammer until Axle loosens.
     
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    That would works except the bearings are in the wheel, which are blind bores. There is no where for the bearings to go. Depending on the bearing orientation that you may not be able to separate them that way.

    After looking at my 650, you wouldn't even need to spread the swing arm, the large portion of the axle shaft is completely exposed. Personally, I would give it a couple of good whacks, then go get my die grinder and cut the axle in two. If you cut it back really close to the washer, you could grind what's left of the shaft back to that washer and the brake plate should come off.
     
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    have you tried to heat up the bearing with a propane torch to make it it alittle large. just a thought
     
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    I would cut through the axle, both sides with a recipricating saw & get it on the bench.
     
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    Mrbug, I was talking about getting to the bearings after removing the wheel/drive/brake assembly(if possible) without damaging the axle. Then disassembling the brake side or drive side, exposing the wheel bearings. Then destroy the bearings which will need replacing anyway and saving the axle if the axle isn't damaged.
     
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    Use a Slugging Hammer.

    Hook-up the Axle and "Yank" it out.

    Pre-load the Impact.
    Pull the Rod TIGHT before Sliding the Hammer Weight.

    Also:

    Buy a Hardened Hex Nut to fit the Threaded-end of the Axle.
    Start the Nut on the Threads.
    Have someone Strike the NUT with a 15 Lb. Hammer while you administer the Impact to the Slugging Hammer.
     
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    Heating with a propane torch could help. Removing the entire swingarm/drive assemble sound like a good idea too.
     
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    Cut the Axle.
    Get the Wheel and Brake off the Bike.
    Use a Hydraulic Press to free the seized axle.
     
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    Zhalbert, is the axle stuck in the brake hub or?
     

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