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wont start when the kick stand is down 81 seca 750

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  1. daybyday

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    i know if the kick stand is down and you the bike in gear it dies its part of that kickstand safety feature. but for some reason when my kickstand is down and my bike is in neutral it wont turn over it tries to start up but wont.. i pick up the kick stand and it fires right up (this is all in neutral BTW) then i put the kick stand down and it dies.. im running out of ideas i need some help... all suggestions are much appreciated thank yall for yalls time


    *81 SECA 750*
     
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    side stand switch is likely dirty or going bad. with the side stand down try pulling the plunger out and see if it allows you to start in neutral. you can try spaying out inside the plunger boot with some lubricant to clean it out and see it that helps. if not you will likely have to replace the switch.
     
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    if i pull the plunger out it starts right up with the kickstand down. ill try cleaning it tomorrow and spaying it as well and let yall know if that fixed the problem.. thanks for the help
     
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    It sounds like the system is "reacting" to the sidestand switch correctly; the problem is, it doesn't know it's in neutral.

    Your problem is with the NEUTRAL switch or its wiring. Otherwise it wouldn't be responding to the position of the sidestand.
     
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    ok so i looked at it today and not it wont turn over with the plunger in at all i take it off an it kicks right up.. i guess ill have to just ride with out the kickstand safety feature?
     
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    Fix the NEUTRAL switch.
     
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    sorry fitz i didnt see your first post about the neutral switch... how do i go about fixing the neutral switch?
     
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    Locate it; check its wiring (more likely culprit) put a meter on the leads and test it; flush it out...

    Your sidestand switch is behaving as it should, telling the bike when the stand is down. It won't run with the stand down because it thinks it's IN GEAR. And that would be the job of the neutral switch.

    Do you get the green "neutral" light?
     
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    yea i just checked ant the light says its in neutral so that makes me think that the bike knows its in neutral
     
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    Right. Which means it's just not "telling" the relay it is. The problem is in the wiring to/from either the sidestand relay or the safety cutoff relay; more likely the safety cutoff relay. You've eliminated the switch itself at this point.

    You need a meter and the wiring diagram for your bike and you'll find it. You already know both the switches work.
     
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    ok thanks ill get on it.. thanks for the help
     
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    im 80% sure the saftey cutoff relay went bad
     
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    there is a procedure for testing it in the haynes manual. If it tests bad I have a spare one I can test and send out to you just pay shipping on it.
     
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    awesome.. let me find a way to test it through the manual and ill get back with you
     
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    i cant find a way to test it.. i cant find a haynes manual
     
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    You can test your Switched with a MULTI-Meter ::--> Recommended.

    Or, ...

    You can use a Automotive TEST-Light ::--> Acceptable.

    Radio Shack or Harbor Freight for a MULTI-Meter.
    CAL-Van Model #72 for Auto TEST Light

    Test Light on Sale ... $9.95
    http://www.rjtool.com/automotive-tools/ ... an-72.html
     
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