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super tight valves? am i retarded?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by dbrianson, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. livingdeadlyxj650

    livingdeadlyxj650 Member

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    Sooo okay. The nipple dosent fit in the gap in n the bucket. Its to push directly on the head of the bucket. So what's the difference in the two style of tools? Not to try n

    thread jack.
     
  2. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    Ok, so my valves are not ALL super tight, I was using wrong feeler guage, but here is what I have:

    These are the clearances:
    E1- .076 E2- .203 E3- .127 E4- .102
    I1- tight I2- .076 I3- .076 I4- .076

    Here are the installed shims:
    E1- y285 E2- y280 E3- y275 E4- y280
    I1- y285 I2- y285 I3- y280 I4- 275A

    I used a 12 guage electrical wire as a valve holding tool, it took all of 2 seconds to get it in the open valve, it worked great.
     
  3. bigfitz52

    bigfitz52 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Oh, they're tight alright. Leave #2 exhaust alone.

    Exhaust #1 and #4- down two sizes, exhaust #3 one size;

    Intakes will all need to go down one size except for the "mystery" which will probably need to change by two or even three sizes.

    Seven out of eight is not a surprise; they've been neglected.
     
  4. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    Thanks a bunch, I wonder If hogfiddles has those shims to swap me?
     
  5. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    You will able to swap a number of the existing shims over to other buckets. The only things you actually need to get are two 270 shims, plus whatever you end up needing for the #1 intake.

    I have two NOS 270's, no used 270's. I probably have whatever you end up finding you need for the 1 intake one once you know it.

    PM me and I'll give you the particulars of how the shim pool works.

    In a nutshell, the used shims are a straight-up swap, there is a deposit required that is returned when the swapped-out shims are sent to me, minus the mailing cost.

    As far as the NOS shims, I was fortunate enough to come into a big batch of them earlier this year, so I am passing the fortune onto others in these forums in the form of a real good price. There is a reasonable price for flat-out purchase, and the deposit covers that amount. Then, for each swapped shim that is returned to me, there is a portion of the deposit that is returned, and the final cost of a NOS shim ends up being only about what an aftermarket shim would cost.

    Again, PM me for details, and if you wish to speak in person then pm me and I'll give you my number.

    Dave Fox
     
  6. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    Sent you a pm
     
  7. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Haven't receid one....make sure that you click the ' pm' box at the bottom of this reply, then fill in the box with the reply. After that, scroll down a bit more and make sure to hit 'submit'.

    Don't know where it went........ so let's try again :)

    dave F
     
  8. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    I just realized that I have this problem on every damn forum I'm a member of, the pm function never works on my iPhone. I'll send through my pc.
     
  9. OzRoadbandit

    OzRoadbandit Member

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    I'd also be looking a #1 and seeing if it had a lean condition.
    #1 valves on my XJ were uber tight. That cylinder had been running quite lean for some time causing valve recession.
    Like yours, the PO of mine was right up on maintenance .... NOT.
     
  10. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    hogfiddles, i need 3- 270 shims, i cant get the pm to send on my iphone or my pc now, i don't know whats wrong, it says it sent but it didn't.
     
  11. dbrianson

    dbrianson New Member

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    Here is the old girl i'm working on:

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  12. Daniel Scott Merrill

    Daniel Scott Merrill New Member

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    I know this is very old but what do you mean by wrong feeler gauge I'm having the same problems measuring my shims with the smallest feeler and may need a different gauge
     
  13. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    1.What is the thinnest gauge you are using....
    2. Is your gauge metric or SAE
     
  14. Daniel Scott Merrill

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    I was using the wrong feeler guage and bought a new 32 feeler set. I was able to measure all the valves and all but one were out of spec. The exhaust valves were way out. I want able to pull the shims out yet but I'll post the measurements I took soon.
     
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