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Rear tire, need tube?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by jkstull, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. jkstull

    jkstull Member

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    I have an 1982 xj750j, the rear rim is an 18inch from the seca, po put it on. my question is does that tire need a tube if i buy a tubeless rim? the guy at the shop said my front rim has to have a tube in order to set the bead, is that true and is it the same with the rear? looking to replace it in the next 2 weeks, so please bestow upon me some knowledge.
     
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    MiCarl Active Member

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    Time to look for a new shop.

    Both wheels are designed for tubeless tires. Because it's a small tire the front can be challenging to seat, but it's doable. Your guy is either slow or lazy or both.
     
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    After the issues I've had with tubeless on my bike. I prefer tubes even if they have said that it can go tubeless.

    I have to say I don't know what the overall benefit of tubeless is over tubed... except for $12 or so.

    But tubed with a clean rim, before a new tyre is fitted, feels like a backup plan... but that might just be me.
     
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    Tubes are More susceptible to pinch flats, but if you're running that low of pressure in the first place for that to occur during normal riding, you're going to have other problems
     
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    A tire with a tube will run hotter than one without
     
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    ok, thanks for the info. seems like its a personal preference, im just using the bike to cruise, so not concerned with pinch flats or tires getting too hot.
    since my front tire already has a tube in it, i should go ahead an have a tube put in the back to keep things balanced.
     
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    Be aware that changing from tubeless tires to a tube-type tire (or installing a tube) on a stock XJ rim will require removing the "tubeless" type valve stem.

    It's not really "preference" there is nothing wrong with tubelss tires on our cast rims, it's not a "performance vs. cruiser" distinction. There's no need to run a tube "just because."
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I have 24+ bikes......NONE have tubes. Neither does my car or my truck.

    Hey, my tractor has tubes, and so does my bicycle (but those are probably shot since I don't ride it much anymore).

    Dave

    ps:so does my lawnmower
     
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    I work in the auto industry (on cars, not bikes professionally) and I have only seen ONE tire come in with a tube inside of it. Long story short, the guy had a flat on a basically brand new tire that was unsafe to patch or plug (too close to the sidewall) and instead a shop that shall remain unnamed installed a tube as a 'fix' for the tire. This raised eyebrows on everyone in my shop, and no one believed it until they saw it with their own eyes.

    Tires today are designed to be run tubeless, and my recommendation is to run without a tube since that is what the bike was designed for and what the tires are designed for. If the wheel is corroded around the bead seat and won't seal, there is always bead sealer, and if worse comes to worse you may need to replace the wheel.

    That is just my $0.02, and I am sure others can and will argue that tubeless has its benefits so ultimately it IS your decision.
     
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    Not ALL tires are "designed" to be run tubeless; tubes are still needed with wire-spoked wheels. And most "tubeless" motorcycle tires work equally well when run on rims that require tubes.
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I'll add to that......for those people that DO have tires that run tubes.....I have a crate chock full of the liners that go inside the rim and cover all of the spoke ends. This is from the Indian factory before they closed. I think they are the 19" ones, I'll have to go check again though when I get home from work if anyone is interested.......I have, oh, probably 200 of then!?!

    Dave Fox
     
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    My Norton runs 19" front and rear I could certainly use a few.
     

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