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valve shims - tool not working

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by sebwiers, May 26, 2013.

  1. bigfitz52

    bigfitz52 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Using a zip-tie or the (safer) piece of #12 insulated wire will NOT put enough side-loading on a valve to bend it. If you had a bent valve it wasn't because of that, unless you turned the motor over far enough with the zip tie in place for the piston to come up and crash into the open valve.

    I'm not recommending the "zip tie trick" but for many other reasons; the possibility of bending a valve isn't one of them.
     
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    It took me a couple of tries to get the knack of placing the tool but once I had a feel for it it was easy.
     
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    Ditto. With the procedure I outlined, I could do it right every time, the first time. I call it $8 well spent (shop had a used one in stock), not the least because hunting down the tool forced me to drive to a shop on the opposite side of town that I'd never been to... but really should have been going to all along.
     
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    Mine too took a couple tries but work great!!
     
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    JPaganel Well-Known Member

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    Like what?
     
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    quebecois59 Well-Known Member

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    Only reason I can see is zip tie breaking apart and falling on the piston, and other would be carbon deposit dislodged in the process, but this could happen with the #12 insulated wire too.
     
  7. bigfitz52

    bigfitz52 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    There're two of the reasons right there.

    There's also the possibility of splitting or otherwise damaging a dried-out but still viable valve stem seal by "rocking" the valve against it.
     
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    I honestly had no issues whatsoever using the tool. As long as you line it up right with the cam lobe it works as it should. Granted it's a little tedious
     
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    When I first got the tool it took me maybe one or two try's to get it to work on the first valve, but then I got a feel for it and it was very simple and easy to use after that.
     
  10. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I have two of the tools.........I hardly use them anymore. I have gone to the zip-tie method, too.

    It is:

    Quicker
    Easier
    Safer---if it breaks, it's a SMALL plastic tip that will burn up (unless you're jamming the whole thing into your bike.......then you other anger-management issues or something to fix first---------

    Now, for those of you who are coming to the carb clinc in 1.5 weeks, remind me to show you the Ultimate Ziptie. LOL

    Dave F
     
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    Dave, I can't make it!!!! but the birth of a child is a good excuse, right?
     

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