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Clutch inspection - calling all experienced gurus

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by lanker, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. lanker

    lanker Member

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    I plan on inspecting my clutch today. I know what to look for regarding the clutch itself. However, my question is this: while i'm in there is there anything else I should check/inspect? This will be the first time I've taken the clutch cover off.

    Thank you!
     
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    Inspecting or changing? Removing just the plates or the basket too?

    You'll probably want to have a gasket handy, the old ones tend to tear and then you'll just leak from that cover until you get a new one.
     
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    Inspecting - changing if needed. I do get some slight slipping when shifting at high RPMs (6-7k). Also, I tend to hear what I can only describe as a "chirping" at around 4-5k RPM. I've read on other forums where the cooling fins will "sing" due to resonance - but I don't THINK its that - its near impossible to find the source as it only seems to happen when I'm moving.
     
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    Replacement cable, or lube for old, Fitz recommends cotton buds for cleaning the oil sight glass ( these do work well) . Scotch brite for cleaning plain plates.

    Once back together monitor the chirping and try to pinpoint location.

    And finally a good read of fitz's writeup before you start. :)
     
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    Are you sure the "chirping" isn't bike-speed and not rpm-related? Could be the speedo or cable...

    If you have the original clutch, the friction plates may very well measure within wear spec; but they're 30 years old and won't work the way they used to be able to.

    Just rebuild the clutch. If your hub and basket are OK; and the plain plates not scored, warped or burnt blue, then all you'll need will be friction plates, springs, bolts and a new gasket.

    ***NOTE*** The 550 clutch has "tabbed" plain plates and a special friction plate with a "clutch boss spring" that need to be assembled in the correct orientations. It's not covered very well in the manuals. See: http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=29541.html
     
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    RE: chirping - it is definitely not speed related as hear it most noticeably during downshifting (during the higher-->lower RPM traversal) - it is only momentary (half a second maybe) as it passes through the 4-5K RPM range.

    RE:clutch - I will most likely rebuild it using the aftermarket friction plates and springs that Len has available (which reports to produce a bit stiffer clutch).

    If I am able I will try to produce a video which captures the "chirp". Also, I am currently running Yamalube 10w-40 (live in Cicero, NY an only ride in summer and fall). I think I am going to use 20w-50 Castrol 4T (non-synthetic) next oil change as I get a slight bit of valve chatter after the bike has warmed up and is at "normal" operating temperature. The values were in spec when we checked a few weeks ago but I plan on re-checking those as well now that I've banged on the engine a little bit.
     
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    With the 750 clutch cover, it's possible to take a sheet of gasket material, trace the old gasket with a sharpie and cut it out with scissors, leaving lots of sheet left over for future use.
    Not sure about the other motors, though.
     
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    I do have some Victor-Renz material (both high-temp as well as some cork) but in this case I will just order the gasket as I plan to order new friction plates and springs too.
     
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    lanker; definitely switch to 20W50; the 550s have an hydraulically-operated primary chain tensioner and DO NOT like running on too-thin oil.

    I would recommend OEM springs; the "extra stiffness" of the aftermarket springs is unnecessary; all it does is give your hand more exercise. I'm running Len's aftermarket plates with OEM springs and original/refurbished plain plates in my '83 and it's better than the stock clutch IMHO.

    ***PREVENT a DISASTER*** Replace the pressure plate BOLTS too. With proper ones, not hardware store parts.
     
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    Bigfitz52 5:15 - So it is written, so it shall be done.

    When Bigfitz speaks - I listen. Period.
     

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