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Custom Carb Jet Kits

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by ChrisRomello, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. ChrisRomello

    ChrisRomello Member

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    I plan on running pod filters on my 82 XJ650 Maxim and I have heard on here how much of a hassel it is to get the bike to run right after installing them. I found this kit on ebay that asks you to email them the year, make, and model of your bike and the elevation that you live at along with the exact filters you are using, and your exhaust set up and they will send you a custom jetting kit designed specifically for your bike with detailed installation instructions. Has anyone tried any of these kits? I really want to run pod filters on my bike and Im pretty willing to do what it takes to make it work. Heres a link to the listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-XJ650-XJ ... 5606wt_733
     
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    I bought my kit from them. I installed per directions, except I did not drill the slide, or clip the spring. so far so good.
     
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    Sweet, I guess I will go for it then!
     
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    Caveat emptor!!!

    The instructions seem cover every complaint we've ever heard about what to expect after Pod and Exhaust Mods.
    This isn't the first Kit supplier to make such claims.

    The Dial-A-Jet people say the same thing.

    They don't need the particulars for your Bike.

    Just a Check, Money Order or your Credit Card Number and you'll be going like Hell in nothing flat!
     
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    mucking with carbs and it air is poison ....... good luck. lol
     
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    I agree with Rick they will promise you will go 150 mph if you install their kit. And when it does not do it they tell you you did something wrong. I don't believe in jet kits its much cheaper to buy the jets you need even if you have to get into the air bleeds. Sometimes they can run ok with pods if your lucky. And some people say they are much faster with them. They make a lot of noise and seems like the bike is faster because when they com on their sweet spot they pull good. But what the do not realize is before the pods the bike was much stronger up to the point where the pods hit their sweet spot they just did not notice it . I like the look of pod filters and maybe they do pull harder on top but is it worth loosing some low and mid range power where your at most of the time to get it. Pods work good on old bikes with slide carbs on the cv type carbs the throttle is just controlling the air coming thru the carb the fuel metering and and ratios run off the vac signal and changing air intake changes flow and vac at the back of the carbs. Thus making it hard to tune properly
     
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    Good luck be interested how you get on. Just a bit of advice, Don't destroy your air box getting it out and don't throw it away you may just want to put it back on one day. Take it from someone that learnt the hard way :cry:
     
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    My xj750 has pods on it and it seems to run pretty good. It came with em when I bought it so, someone else must have gone through the carbs. Don't let everyone discourage you. It can work. Goodluck from a pod equipped xj750. BTW, I get 45mpg+
     
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    Pods can be done but it isn't easy. Velocity stacks between the carbs and the filters help on these CV carbs. Pods work better with different style carbs such as round slides or flat slides.
    There's a link in my signature that might be helpful called Pod Success Stories so check it out.
     
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    Its a fine art and shouldnt be done unless you have some serious patience
     
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    Those who say it cant be done, step aside, make room for those doing it.
     
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    My intention is to order from 6Sigma as well. That is actually the next thing in line and along with my new exhaust (MAC 4 into 1), the bike will be done and on the road.

    What I like about the jet kits is that they will get on the phone with you, if something isn't working as expected, and help you make changes/adjustments with "extra" parts they included in the kit.

    Now, is this true, not sure. But, we run that risk with anything we buy. If I was worried so much that something might not be as advertised, I would never buy anything. At a certain point, you can't box the hell out of it, you just have to do the best you know how.

    I look forward to hearing your success story with this kit.
     
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    All these bikes with "successful" PODS?
    I want a SIDE BY SIDE comparison
    Does successful just mean, no more stumble, no backfiring, smooth idle and acceleration?
    Ive installed pods and jet kits on numerous bikes as a motorcycle mechanic.
    VERY few bikes have had "gains" in performance
    Ive tried it on the Xjs twice, and never liked it. My stocker always had the best pull in every gear.
    Up the jets one size in pilot, and 2 sizes on the main and you'll find your stock set up very satisfying.
     
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    The only thing pods do is make it easier to remove/install your carbs. You can get a couple of extra ponies with them and a pipe but only on the top end. But your transitions will be very difficult to get smooth. Also the pods will get dirty at different rates so your bike will always seem to need tweaking, and also when it rains the outboard pods will get wet and it will run crappy.
     
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    It would be nice, if someone with exceptional motorcycle mechanic experience, got a XJ set up right in the stock form and put it on a dyno. Then took the same bike, put on pods and tuned it right, and returned it to the dyno for the smoking gun to end this argument.

    But, we really shouldn't be arguing over this every time it comes up.
    If someone asks how to make it work, tell them how or point them in a direction to find help instead of crapping all over their idea.
    Opinions are fine, but opinionated warnings or statements aren't needed and makes the whole forum look bad.
    I know everybody thinks differently on certain mods and that some mods maybe considered unsafe,unnecessary or just plain wrong. But we need to remember it's their bike and they get to do what they want to it, not what you want.
    So, are we going to help people (enjoy their bike the way they want to enjoy it) or not?
     
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    +1 with Orange and Black.

    Each to their own, I say. Reminded of my Fathers saying," If you can't say something good, say nothing."

    If people don't try.....we don't learn! :wink:
     
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    How about,
    "Save yourself time and LOTS of money and TONS of tuning frustrations and keep it stock."
    But hey!
    If you like stress and spending money the more power to you!
    I personally like saving money and living a stress free life
    To each their own I guess
    -Chris
     
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    CV Carbs.
    C = Constant
    V = Velocity

    Pods replace ( C ) with Turbulence.
    Pods replace ( V ) with removing Velocity and substituting Volume.

    Pods definitely LOOK Good.
    Pods definitely cause Fine-Tuning complications which many find to be quite exasperating.

    Although there are some instances where owners have installed Pods and profess to be delighted with their appearance and function; far more who have tried Pods report insurmountable issues with an all-too-familiar theme(s).

    We don't need a Dyno Duel.
    We just need to honest to the next guy who comes-in asking for advice on how to remove his airbox before installing Chrome-plated Air Pods and Stage 1 & 3 Jet Kits hoping to be capable of achieving Ludicrous Speed!

    Carefully.
    Very, very carefully!
     
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    I think we all agree that pods on CV carbs ain't easy.
    The real problem is the honesty part from individuals that didn't have success and then tell others that it's impossible,a waste of time or it'll make the motor run lean up till it blows up.
    These motors can be made faster than original like all motors can, it depends on your knowledge, wallet and determination.
     
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    um.... that IS being honest. IMHO, it's also a fair warning to give. Any lean condition carries this risk.
     
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    It sure is.

    Yes, these motors can be made marginally faster given the right combination of "knowledge, wallet and determination."

    However, it's a lot easier to get it wrong and end up damaging the mill. There is a lot involved to properly compensate for intake changes while retaining some semblance of long-term reliablility. The last thing we want to do is lead folks to believe it's easy or "no big deal" especially those who might be a bit challenged in regard to knowledge and or wallet.
     
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    True, but there's a line between warnings/good advice and assumption BS.
     

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