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Quiz time. What the heck is this?

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by biggs500, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. biggs500

    biggs500 Active Member

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    Saw this at tonight's bike night.

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    RUSSIAN?
     
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    biggs500 Active Member

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    No, but close.
     
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    Polish.....????
     
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    Czechoslovakian maybe, their flag colors (plus yellow).
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Chinese. Chang Jiang. A "lovely" copy, of a copy, of a BMW.
     
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    Ural?
     
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    Looks like the Chang Jiang...check out the hi-tech carbs! :) All good fun until somebody you know recognises you! :)
     
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    Looks like a Dnepr.
     
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    A Chang Jiang copy of a Ural, which was a copy of the BMW(Barvarian Motor Werks) that the USSR bought from Germany in 1940 during their brief time of peace before Operation Barbarossa.
     
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    Thats a odd one. It looks like a Ural or BMW but the engine looks like a 2 stroke. I don' see any valve cover or pushrod tubes and the exhaust port is low on the cylinder. There is a quite a bit of cloth wraped wire that would date it to the 1930s.
    I have no clue.
     
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    Those who said Chinese can raise their heads high and proud. :D Talked real briefly with the owner and he said when you take them for a ride over there it's best just to have someone (a 'mechanic') follow you in a truck.

    I didn't get a chance to ask how he came into possession of it though. Interesting bike. Like k-moe said, "a lovely copy of a BMW'.
     
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    The Red Star should have given it away...right away.....
     
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    Chiang Jiang. You can buy Chinese Army surplus ones direct from China. I think it's something like $2000 +shipping. They claim they have rebuilt them prior to selling, but I wouldn't count on it.

    And it's not a direct copy of a BMW. K-moe and O-n-B are correct - it's a copy of a copy.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Side valve engines don't have (or need) valve covers, or pushrod tubes. The valves are driven by tappets that are directly over the cam, and the head does double duty. Have you ever taken an L-head lawnmower engine apart?

    The arrangement looks similar to this.
    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6640780-0-large.jpg
     
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    I bet he aint proud of the chip on the tank
     
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    The engine with pistons on the side looks a lot like my Japanese made Subaru. very cool ride.
     
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    another Chang....a 51 with sidecar and shaftdrive on right, with faux BMW badging
     

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