Thread tap and die sets?

Looking at buying a tap and die set so I can make sure all threads are truly clean.
I did a search and didn't find much other than the fact that Chacal carries a couple.
Anybody out there have a set,is it as simple as a metric set? Or will things like thread pitch or whatever the terminology is vary?
Thanks in advance.

 

Pretty much, AFAIK. There are varying thread pitches in the metric world, but to the best of my knowledge, nothing out of the ordinary on these bikes. Most, if not all, tap and die sets will have a little doohickey/chingadera/whatchamacallit that helps you determine what thread pitch a given bolt has.

 

If I remember rightly , I just bought a standard metric tap and die set . Like many things , you get what you pay for , so get the best you can afford and with as many sizes as possible . Mine has been a life saver on many occasions , cleaning up dodgey threads and rusty bolts.
Cheers, Murray

 

X2 on quality - Now I sure couldn't afford them, but at the shop we have full snap-on sets that are INCREDIBLE. They just work so so so well, no worry of ever messing up whatever you're trying to fix even more - something that can happen with cheap sets sometimes.

 

Hang on now; in terms of "nothing unusual" yeah, there is. Not UBER unusual but enough to trip you up.

Yamaha used a lot of "unpoplular" thread pitches (1.25, .75) on some sizes that would normally be found in a 1.5 or .8 pitch. They also used different pitches on the same diameter components. (M14 in both 1.25 and 1.5 for instance.)

Some of these thread pitches may not be present in a "basic" cheap set.

Take a look at the torque spec chart in your manual so you know what you'll need to have.

 

Thanks, pretty much exactly what I needed to know.

 

Since the good taps and dies are expensive don't buy a set that will leave you with a bunch you will never use. Rather determine what ones you need and buy them separately. Greenlee and Columbia are names you can't go wrong but a full set of these will cost a lot. Hanson used to be a good name but since it has been bought by Irwin it may now be a value brand. Stay away from Vermont America and the imports. Also look for ones made of HSS steel not high carbon steel. Try the pawn shops, there are great deals there.

 

Remember, not ALL of Chacal's stuff is in his catalogue!

 

individual taps are the way to go, a 6X1 and a 8x125 will take care of most holes on our bikes. since your going to be chasing threads a expensive tap is a overkill i think, any tap will take out paint and burrs.

 

Hence my use of the qualifier "to the best of my knowledge".

Please... elaborate. Genuinely curious.

I've got the basic set from Harbor Freight, and it does have some of what you're referring to as oddball thread pitches. So I've got that going for me... which is nice.

 

Schmuchaholic-

Metric bolts use a designation Number1 x Number2 x Number 3.
Number 1 is the diameter of the bolt in mm.
Number 2 is the threads per mm.
Number 3 is the kengtn of the bolt in mm.

I can't say that they have oddball sizes. Just like we have course and fine threads so do metric bolts.

 

Yes, I'm aware of this. I'm talking about Fitz's reference to unpopular pitches for various bolts. Using the examples he gave, and a bit of googling, I'm not seeing 0.8 or 1.5 thread pitch for an M8, but M10 does have 0.75, 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5.

 

M8's often appear in 1.0 pitch, whereas ours are M8 X 1.25.

The other thing that's really infuriating is Yamaha's use of JIS bolts with non-"standard" HEAD sizes. For instance, the M8 X 1.25 bolts on the exhaust system (and elsewhere on the bike) take a 12mm wrench. A replacement M8 bolt from the auto parts will have a 13mm head.

 

Oh for the goo old days, when every manufacturer had their own standard for fasteners, so you had to go to them for replacements.

http://www.nord-lock.com/bolted/the-history-of-the-bolt/

It's so much easier than it once was.

Most hardware stores will only carry the most common sizes, but there are multitudes of options for fastener dementions (even within the same standard). Fastenall, among others, is a good source for the less-common (but still standard) fasteners.

 

MSC industrial supply or production tool supply stock most of the bastard metric taps and dies.

Maz