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Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by kyle10149, May 20, 2014.

  1. kyle10149

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    So today coming outta a turn the rear wheel on my 82 xj650 locked up an but me end over end 1 foot from a utility pole. She aint to beat up guages busted bars bent but all and all she aint bad but my wrist on rhe other hand...... yeah so she is for sale definitely repairable let me know
     
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    Is that a seca or a maxim?

    Did you find out why the wheel locked up on you? Was that due to the rear brake shoe delimitation issue?
     
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    I bet the brake pads came loose.
     
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    They had been replaced since I bought it but grabing the clutch did nothing so it had to be approblem past the clutch
     
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    If your rear brakes locked up what the hell is the clutch gonna do.
     
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    keep the engine from stalling :)
     
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    I am sorry to hear about your accident, so is your bike a maxim or a seca?
     
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    glad to hear you're okay.
     
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    clutch ain't gonna help the brakes.........pull the rear wheel off and check. Just replace the shoes, replace the scraped parts, and get back on.

    Dave F
     
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    the most important thing is you are ok and alive wrist will heal and your mental well being dont give up you cant let the bike win, and knowing that 99.9% of bikers will eventully ride on the asphalt, go down hard, become superman without the steel, remember gumby up and dont try to avoid injury, works everytime well most of the time at 1 point or another.....................why would you QUIT??????????????
    if you wreck the car does that mean you give up on vehicles altogether?
    buy a horse? you could be thrown from that then what ??? walk the earth for the rest of your life??????? all street bikers should have at least alot of dirt time teaches how to deal with squirrly bikes and objects that fly out of nowhere. if anything this cant stress enough the importance of maintence constant checks treat it like a plane. when it comes to your and other peoples safety there can never be enough checking. i hope you let it sit gather yourself in couple weeks you should change your mind hopefully. sincerly sorry cant help the scharcasim
     
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    Im nonot fivim g up riding all together I think just the maxim. And if u guys would read what I said I never said it couldn't be be delamination I just said it was after the clutch because clutch had no effect on the lock up
     
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    It probably was a delamination issue; which is why you can't just jump on a 30-year old bike and start riding it.

    Thankfully you weren't seriously hurt; but don't blame the bike.
     
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    Would u guys read what I said!!!!!! The rear shoes were less than 5 years old..... I took the rear wheel off last night when I got bacl from the er the cause was the linkage the acuates the break it sticks that with a little bit of Wisconsin sand.
     
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    Do you mean the cam that sticks out of the brake plate or the linkage that connects the rear brake pedal to the actuating lever? Either way sounds kinda strange...especially considering you said it happened coming OUT of a corner. That would mean you were braking while in the corner, which is a big no-no anyway because it takes grip away from cornering. The proper way is to slow down BEFORE the corner and then roll on the throttle, accelerating through and out of the corner.

    Anyway, glad you weren't seriously hurt.
     
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    The cam it is stuck applied im guessing. It was stuck all the way through the cornner just dodnt cause a problem untill I hit a small. Samdy spot
     
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    So because you do not know how to maintenance a bike your giving up on it....
     
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    Um I do maintain my bike l. Thank u very much irs 32 years old mechanial failures do happen regardless all brake pads are new lines bearings caliper rebuilt im an ase certified mechanic I maintain my stuff impeccably well this bike is high millage (over 65k) and 32 years old its time for it to be retired. I was offering it to fellow xjers for parts to keep theres goin so stop with the fricken "learn to ride" "take care of ur shit" bull shit so im assuming none of u guys have never crashed a car or a bike on never broke down with either?
     
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    And the bike is a maxim
     
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    I don't recall anyone saying "learn to ride". If you're referring to my comment, I was just trying to understand how it happened and what the mechanical failure was that way it could potentially help someone else in the future.
     
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    There has been several comments in reguards to my ability to ride or stating poor maintaince I have riden since. I could walk and do maintain my vehicles for the record. To poit of this post was basically general duscion and offering a solid parts bike with new paint to felow xjers.
     
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    Not to pile on, but new paint recently dragged down the road is not "new".

    Anyway, glad you are Ok, hope you heal up and get back to riding soon. Good luck with selling the bike.
     
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    Doesnt look like maintained to me....
    [​IMG]
     
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    Um stuipd asshat thats the day I bought it
     
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    And dirty means unmaintained? Becausevu cant see outher lack of maintaince in that pic
     
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    Dirty doesn't mean poorly maintained. I keep all my machines in a fine state of tune, but I rarely wash them.
     
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    Kyle,

    I believe the general consensus from the members is that we're glad you are okay and whatever you choose to do with your bike is fine. It's not worth the headache. Life is short. Stay on or stay off...do what's best for you. Get well.

    Gary
     
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    Well lets see you posted these and it looks like you cant make up your mind when you bought it and how much you paid...


    Hi, i have been using this forum since i bought my 1982 maxim 650 about a year ago. i paid $150 for it not running replace cdi box and it runs but it wouldn't hold an idle at all and it would hang any time you let of the throttle or used the clutch so this winter i pulled the carbs off and did the whole nine yards on them they clunk tested well. i cleaned everything inside and out per the tech write up on here then i set the floats. So i re-installed them, and first of all it still don't want to start without squirting a little gas in it. and once it starts it wants to idle at 7500 i tried adjusting it to bring it down but it made no change. finally i came down to it has to be a vacuum leak well the throttle seals are new, i RTVED the intake manifolds, and the intake manifolds are not cracked at all and i replaced the little caps on the sync ports. then i figured the throttle has to be open so i pulled them back off re bench synced made sure every thing was clean and rest everything. still the same problem. Finally i came down to the linkage when i take the throttle linkage out of the pedestal on the carbs it will idle at about 1200 with a little bit of "choke". And the cable seems to move OK not resistance free but not really dragging. im guessing the hard start has to do with its 40F out or i didn't get the enrichment circuit clean enough but the idle is kicking my A**


    So today I decide was a good day to paint the maxim. Its an 82 xj650 that I picked up for 60 bucks three years ago in shambles. It didn't run no spark, carbs were full of green fuzzy stuff and just about nothing worked brakes, lights and all the cables were froze up. The bike was a lovely shade of puke green than was clearly spray paint. It was so bad I thought it was going to glow the first time I rode it at night. Yeah it really looked like glow in the dar green. Last winter I did a full over haul on the brakes stainless steel lines and all. New wheel bearings, tires, and of course cleaned the carbs and replaced all the cables. I couldn't stand the color don I also did a quick bomb can job of my own. Well this year I decided to sand it down and and put a nice paint job on it. And this is where it got frustrating I sanded down everything smooth and went to spray the primer surfacer and instant curtling. :/ So I did the only thing I could do I bought some stripper and started working. Turns out there was no joke 7 coats of spray paint 3 coats of primer and the factory paint. It took 4 rounds of stripper and I was finally down to bare steel. The side covers were another story due to not wanting to damage the plastic it was alot of hand sanding. Well it got late but I did get the primer surfacer on after about 8 hours of work since I started and thats where it sits more pics and updates to follow.
     
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    Well to be honest the paint is still ok i went down in the ditch seemed softer than pavement at the time bigshankhank hahaand jesse8931whats your f***ing deal? Come look at bike and tell me it was not maintained and are you stalking me now to get pics of my bike? This pages is for help, support and advice from fellow xjers take ur negative personal atacks to a flat billed wife beater crotch rocket boy fan club form this is not the page for that
     
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    Everyone makes errors
     
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    AND I BOMB CAN PAINTED IT THAT DAY..... and it was about three years ago I bought it and the price was 150 the one post was a typo get a life
     
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    No doubt.
    Certainly pulling the clutch would have been anyone's initial reaction to a lockup, so no blame for that. Find the source of the problem and fix it, it sounds like you put a lot of work into the bike already. Heck, you're not riding anything for a while anyway, pull the entire rear end apart and figure it out. It could reveal a latent problem that may help another rider solve the same issue, or even prevent someone else from crashing.
     
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    Bigshankhank I appreciate your understanding thid jesse goes against everything thid pageis about is there any way to ban him from a post
     
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    All I did was point out that you have claimed you changed the rear brake pads 5 years ago and bought it 3 years ago and now 1 year ago. Its not my fault you cant keep your story straight...
     
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    Um with in five years.... and I have more than one bike so sometimes I mix the up so sue me... thereb is no neex to point it out either ur just being an ass
     
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    No reason to go into a flamewar, save that for the squids.

    Glad you're ok, Kyle, and I hope you change your mind and repair rather than get rid of the bike.
     
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    C'mon girls, you are both pretty, no more bickering.

    BTW, what the hell is "Wisconsin sand"? Is that a local euphemism for cheese?
     
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    Lol frac sand its really fine sand and only found in very few places in the world have it
     
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    Glad you're OK. I pulled my rear brake apart to check the brake shoes after I read your first post on this subject. I got caught out in Tahoe with some sand on an off ramp. Got lucky and didn't go down. Hang in there bud...
     
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    IF SAND can cause the rear brake to lock up, then the bike HAS NOT been carefully maintained.

    If the rear brake locked up because during braking the wheel encountered sand and lost traction as a result, then it's down to rider error.
     
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    Mechanical failure happens no matter what you do with high millage so no of ur bikes ever broke down on u fitz?
     
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    Kyle,

    You're correct 65k is high mileage compared to the mileage we normally get with one of these bikes, however, with proper maintenance xj's have a track record for running well over 100k.

    Gary
     
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    Yeah but in that 100k they break down and many go down. Infact most riders go down one time or another. Almost half those miles are mine. Every 2500k at oil changes I give everything a though once over. But as a mechanic I know that with high mileage some mechanical failures cannot be prevented or predictable. Its part of owning an older machine I love my maxims to death fantastic bikes but time might be up for the 82 and finnaly time to get the xs I have wanted
     
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    I understand.
     
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    I'm always tinkering with my bike, checking, adjusting, cleaning one thing or another (Drives my wife nuts). It has a soothing affect on me. Guess that's why it still performes great to this day. Regular maintenance is required and for me fun. Good luck on getting your XS......
     
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    The XS's that I know are as old, or older than the '82
     
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    Yeah but I can get something with less miles and keep my other low mileage xjs
     
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    That is only partally true. Trail braking (and braking while in a corner) is an advanced riding technique that every rider should learn how to do. It helps to settle the chassis through the turn, and adds to the safety of taking downhill corners. New riders are taught to not brake during a turn to prevent the mishaps that are caused by braking excessively while leaned over (which is easy for a new rider to do).

    On the issue of sand in the roadway. Ride on the dirt more. Ride gravel roads. Once you're used to how a bike handles on a loose surface, a little sand on the road won't be a big deal (there's traction before the sand, and traction after it. The bike wants to move a bit whan it hits a patch of sand, but it will straighten back out almost instantly).
     
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    Don't even go there. It's not worth it.

    You know that, I know that. And we both know about countersteering vs. leaning. And letting go of the brakes when suddenly encountering a traction-reducing situation in the roadway. And how to cross wet railroad tracks. How to deal with gravel-polluted corners. How to ride in the rain and not crash.

    But "Mr. Hit a Patch of Sand in a Corner and Blame the Bike" won't understand. Probably ever. Hopefully this hobby isn't what does him in.

    Let it go, man.
     
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