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Free Free Used Parts for XJ700 .. Or it goes in the trash

Discussion in 'For Sale, Trade/Swap, Wanted' started by thejewishguy, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. gdb619

    gdb619 Member

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    Sick bike u built dude I'm going to be building one this winter I got a question for u I have a 650 maxim did u move the springs on ur on the rear I like that look and did u rake the neck
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    You have a 650 maxim.... His bob is a 700 maxim. You won't get you're to look like his
     
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    Orange-n-Black Well-Known Member

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    The 700's forks are a little longer and the rake is more than the 650/750.
    But I have seen someone put a 700 front end on a 650 for a little extra rake.
     
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    as long as you have the correct bearings... I don't remember at the moment if the bearing size is the same or not, and I don't remember if the spindle is the same length.

    But, assuming the correct length and the correct bearings, yes you could do that. Just make sure to use the complete triple clamp.....then you use the whole front end of the 700, and it also gives you dual brakes, too. You'd just have a mismatched front rim.

    dave
     
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    Orange-n-Black Well-Known Member

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    Is there a size difference for the front axle?
    If there's a different size axle, you could probably use the bearings from the other wheel. Given that the difference of bearing size would be the inner diameter only of course( which it probably is if there is a difference).
    Would also need to use the MC and line splitter from the 700 to use the dual disc's.
    Funny how one mod leads to so many others. LOL
     
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    Thanks for the input what do u mean by I'd have to use the same MC and line splitter
     
  7. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I believe the fork spacing is a little different, I could be wrong.

    Regardless, as I said in my previous statement......and reiterating what someone else already said---

    >Just make sure to use the complete triple clamp.....then you use the whole >front end of the 700, and it also gives you dual brakes, too.

    That automatically covers the fact that you'd use the correct master cylinder, lines, splitter, etc.... from the 700 for the dual discs on the 700 rim.

    The only potential sticky point on the mod would be the steering stem lengths and bearings sizes. As long as THAT is compatible, the swap is incredibly easy.

    If I get a chance, I'll measure up or mock up some parts later today.


    Dave
     
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    Thanks are u interested in selling any lol
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I think the rotors and/or spacing is different from the 650 to the 700 too.... I'll do a compare later today
     
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    Would the back tire of the 700 fit a 650
     
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    Yes, they both take a 130/90/16. I am not sure if the rims are interchangeable or not..... Logic says they should be -----

    If you find they do interchange, you will need to use the respective shoes, brake cover, etc..... As the 700 drum is larger

    Dave
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Some quick measuring--
    700 forks are just about 8" center to center
    650 forks are about 7 5/16" center to center
     
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    The 700 swing arm and shaft are stronger than the 650, best bet would be to swap the whole swing arm assembly.... Then you know everything fits AND it's stronger too
     
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    Ok, next set of measurements----

    I didn't take things apart to measure, so I measured outside diameters when able. Here's general results:
    700 and 650 steering stems seem to be the same length
    But 700 bearing cups are bigger, stem is thicker

    So there would have to be custom ordered bearings to do the swap.

    The bearing would need to be:
    OD - the diameters of bearings for the 650 maxim head tube
    ID - the diameters of the spindle for the 700

    I'd suggest a call to Syracuse Bearing, or Kaman Corp....

    Dave fox
     
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    Would the back tire of the 700 fit a 650
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    already answered
     
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    All the fitment issues have been addressed in a certain wire wheel write up.
    Hint, Hint!
     
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    Speaking of that, did you ever finish that bike?
     
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    Is this a dressed to me
     
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    I'd like to say a big thanks to thejewishguy, my favorite Mensch at the XJ forum, for the quick delivery of a perfect set of handlebars.
    I thought I would have to schlep my yiddishe kup all over ebay, then pay those shmendriks whatever cockamamie price they dreamed up in their kolboynick heads. And still end up feeling like a schmoe when the dreks show up and they came off some meshegeners Honda.
    But that didn't happen and I now own a pair of shining XJ bars...whoot whoot
    (my favorite meshugena likes 'em too, she said, “Even a schmuck like you will be safer riding a bike with handlebars that point in the same direction”)
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     

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