super stuck oil filter bolt!!!!

Hey everybody,
I have a super stuck oil filter bolt and I went thru the old threads and I've done almost everything I can do! The bolt head is stripped but, still there. Tonight I tried drilling it out and went through to the inside of the bolt/filter area and the rest of the oil came out. So now it's completely useless trying to drill it out because, it's getting lubricated!!! augh. Tomorrow night I'm planning on filing down two sides of the bolt head and using the vise grips again. Any other suggestions??? This is starting to drive me completely crazy.
many thanks

 

Pipe wrench?

 

I used a chisel and a hammer. Concentrate on the portion of the bolt closest to the housing. I also removed the exhaust to give me more room to work. And use care to turn the bolt not the housing. And when you buy the replacement, get an EMGO, it has a larger diameter bolt head and is easier to remove.

 

I had a flush mounted screw that had a completely stripped out phillips head on my brake's master cylinder. I used a torch and heated it up, let it cool (repeated X3) and then used a flat head screwdriver and I was able to back it out. It just takes some patience.

Here's some other ideas.

http://www.dansmc.com/stripbolt.htm

 

Mine was stuck and completely stripped, I used an easy out, the harder you turn it the deeper it cuts into the old head, it popped it right out. Mine was a mastercraft, if thats any help to you

 

Ditto on Ace's comment - I brought the complete set of bolt extractors from Canadian Tire... I'm batting 1.00 with them. If the extractor bites into the metal (and it really should) then it should work every time... make sure you get it to bite into the metal before you start turning it with a long breaker bar.

 

I tried a bolt extractor last night but, it went through and never bit into the bolt. Now that the oil is in there it looks like it'll never bite properly unless i clean it out really good.

I'm trying to turn this thing counter clock-wise right? I just want to double check so that I'm not making another big mistake. I'm going to try doing the heating up and cooling down with a blow torch tonight and everything else. I'm not going to catch my bike on fire, right? Thanks for all the responses I hope the next time I post i'll be celebrating.

 

Oil shouldn't be a factor when using a bolt or screw extractor bit - those bite directly into the metal and lubricating it won't make a bit of difference.
What most think of as an "easy out" is what I call a screw extractor. Looks like a left-handed drill bit. If that's what you've used, you might want to try an actual bolt extractor -- they look like a large socket with left-hand carbide flutes inside. They grab the outside of the bolt head and twist.
The only thing I'd be worried about in your case is that as you've drilled it already, compromising it somewhat, there may not be enough of the bolt head to take the strain of the bolt extractor. Something to try though.

Yes - it turns counter-clockwise.

 

I had the same problem with my 550 after purchase. I ended up drilling a hole through what remained of the bolt's head and inserted a 10 penny nail. I then fastened the vise grips onto the bolt's head and that gave me the leverage to break it free.

Mind you, this is AFTER I'd used a propane torch/hammer & cold chisel and copious amounts of foul language!

 

Altus - if the bolt head failed, then he could slip the filter housing off most likely. Then I'd stick a spike through the filter bolt holes, perpendicular to the bike, and twist.

Dunno - that's a what might work in a worse case scenario.

 

Yeah thats what I was talking about Altus

 

I used a cold chisel and hammer. Hold the chisel against the side of the bolt and whack it with a hammer. the chisel should grip the side of the bolt and then it works a bit like an impact wrench....

 

i had the same prob. if you can get rid of the head on that bolt with out damaging the housing it will slide right off ,thats what i had to do . i played dentist with a dremel. then bought a new bolt at bikebandit $ 9.00 bucks .

 

Just cut the head of the bolt off with a dremel cut-off wheel, being careful not to hack up the filter cover (it's not that hard). Once the head is off, the oil filter housing will slip right off. Then grab whats left of the bolt "stub" with a pair of vice grips and you'll be able to get it. Replace with an aftermarket EMGO bolt.

That's what I did awhile back on a CB that I had, and it worked like a charm.

 

Hammer and chisel worked for me PBR. I've also used a very large socket I pounded into place over the buggered head. If your very careful, you can even salvage stuck bolts with the chisel method (just gotta file down the curls). I also have use a hack saw to cut a very large slot across the head of the bolt and use an impact hammer to losen it up!

 

Thanks for all the advice. I'm off to the "tent" to work on this thing and I'll report back shortly.

 

Wah Wah. Failure. I think that the bolt has been sabotaged. Here's what went down. I tried to chisel it to no avail. I then dremeled off the mangled bolt head but, couldn't get in closer to get the larger washer part off. With the bolt off I could get the bolt extractor way in there. I tapped it in a little and hooked up a 1/2 inch impact drill and nothing. It spun out from the extractor. So I'm feeling totally beaten. I'm going to see if I have the strength to hack away at it again tomorrow. I really feel like somebody put something crazy on it because, it's practically seamless from where the larger washer part of the bolt fits on to the filter. I guess if there's a way to completely rip out the bolt that's the point I'm at now.

Thanks for all the help. Maybe this thread helped some other people get some stuck stuff lose.

 

You don't have the same extractor that Ace and I have... next time try one of those as they are considerably better. Now you are as far as you are you pretty much will have to cut the whole bolt head off - this will let the filter housing off, which in turn will take some of the preasure off of the filter bolt.

Good luck, woot

 

I would have taken the sawzall to it by now.. haha.. just cut the whole filter housing right in half and buy a new one on ebay..

 

the bolt is cheaper than the housing

 

As was said before, if you can grind drill saw file the rest of the bolt head off you can slip off the filter housing. Then you can unscrew the bolt out of the case with a pipe wrench.

 

I got it out!!!!!
Hey ya'll thanks again for the help. I got it out by cutting off the larger washer part of the bolt and the filter slipped right off and the bolt came out. Now it looks like my filter cover is a little jacked up and the new bolt might not seal well to the cover. So I'm going to be looking for a new filter cover and probably posting a new topic about that.

 

If you are going to pay for another filter cover, why not save yourself some grief and go the spin-on filter adapter route? No more stuck covers, ever!

See the sticky topics on top of the main forum page.

 

That's what I'd do if I were where youre at.
Probably cost about the same and filters would be easier to come by.

 

Sounds cool. thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

 

get a friend with a welding unit to weld a nut on your bolt then just take it off, the heat will also help taking the bolt off, that's what I did, worked great!

 

You could try one of these bolts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-EMGO-O ... 2937QQrdZ1


Or better yet, here's the whole thing & at a really decent price!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/B246-85-Yamaha-XJ70 ... dZViewItem

Good Luck

 

Thanks guys. I got a new bolt and I'll have the new cover by saturday. Then I'll be back on the road.

 

I've been fighting the dammed oil filter cover bolt for over two hours when I realized that I can't be the only person having this problem. I take some small measure of comfort knowing I'm not the only one who's run into this. So far I've managed to strip the bolt head using wrenches, sockets, and vice grips. My new set of Sears damaged bolt head sockets don't do much good either. They bite well enough, but the bolt stays put while they just gouge in deeper. I'm going to try a small monkey wrench next, but if that fails I'll have to break the bolt off with a chisel. Am I correct in assuming that the washer is actually part of the bolt head? I can't really tell for sure. Should I be placing the chisel between the head and the washer, or behind the washer next to the cover?

 

Hey Tony66,

Yhea, that washer is a part of the bolt. So chisel or cut it off in-between the washer and cover. I dremmeled it. The cover will fall right off. And then you'll need a new bolt. Be super careful you don't cut up your cover too bad or you might need a new one of those. . .

Good luck!

 

This may have been stated before and it is so good that I'll risk the repeat.

A friend let me use his #8 Craftsman stripped hexhead tool for a few minutes and I was able to break that stuborn oil filter bolt with stripped corners (thanks to P.O. )

It broke loose so easly!!!!!! I cant say it enough.

The more pressure I put on the tool the harder it grabbed hold!!


We ALL need this in our tool boxes!

 

You are correct about the washer being a part of the bolt. I drilled out the mess and used an eazy-out to remove mine two weeks ago. Got pictures, if you care to view them I will post them in the gallery. I would use the chisel as a last resort. Have you tried to cut a slot in what is left of your bolt head? I did that on one years ago and was able to use a hefty screwdriver and adjustable wrench for leverage. Nothing to lose so give that a shot.

 

Two words: Impact Driver.

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More words: A few firm but gentle raps on the butt of the impact driver from a hammer will work wonders. It's my tool of first resort after wrenches, screwdrivers or sockets won't budge a bolt or screw. It almost ALWAYS works. I used it on my XJ's sticky oil bolt. And they are not expensive either.