Enduro Tyres...

I posted in an old thread about off-road or dual sport tyres recently and doubt its' going to get any traction (if you pardon the pun) so I'm creating a new thread.

I'm looking to put these on the XJ650 - will they fit and will there be enough clearance for the front fender?

http://www.amazon.com/Bridgestone-T...-100-19/dp/B005J8WX0S/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_text_y

http://www.amazon.com/Bridgestone-Trail-Enduro-Motorcycle-90-16/dp/B005J8WYZ2

Not everyone's cup'o-tea but neither is my bike and I think they'll work well. I have the option on my commute to take a fairly major short-cut that avoids a lot of traffic but it's a gravel/rocky road and I don't like doing it at any kind of speed on the normal tyres I have. I figured these would make it more viable.

 

Since you're not going to be on single track I'd recommend a dual sport tire that is biased toward street use. Those enduro tires will not last long on the street. You'll probably start shedding knobs within 2000 miles. I like the Kenda 761. It is a 80/20 street/trail tire and works very well on gravel roads (even those with a fair amount of sand). I don't now if it is available in the size you need for the rear though.

 

I just bought tires based on the suggestions in This Thread. The Duro Rear HF904 Median 130/90S-16 Blackwall Tire - 25-90416-130-TT seems to be pretty good... and about the only thing that will fit. Availability is spotty, but Dennis Kirk got one to me pretty quickly. Part #540781

I got the Brigestone Trailwing as listed in the link from the local dealer because they are easier for him to come by in a reasonable amount of time.

Pics later, but the link has good ones too.

 

You may alwso want to do some reading over at http://advrider.com for tire suggestions. You will be drawing on the experiences of tens of thousands of riders who have put D/S tires on their street bikes.

 

Thanks ... as noted in that thread, finding a 16 in dual-sport is tricky and the Kenda's are a no. I was only able to find these Enduro's so now I see these ones I'm liking it.. thanks man.

https://www.denniskirk.com/duro/rear-hf904-median-130-90s-16-blackwall-tire.p540781.prd/540781.sku

https://www.denniskirk.com/bridgest...-90h-19-blackwall-tire.p652294.prd/652294.sku

These are them right?

What kind of wear have you gotten out of them?

Dumb, question these are Tube type right? Does the Maxim take both?

R./

 

Don't know about the tube. I didn't install it. So far they seem to be decent, but I've only put about 200mi on them.

 

What did they cost to install / balance? How hard is this to do?

 

Generally, aluminum wheels use tubeless tires. Wire-spoked wheels must use tube type tires. Tube type tires can be use on either wheel. Keep in mind that tube type generate more heat. Could be a problem if you plan on doing a lot of highway riding.
Ribo, the Dennis Kirk tires are tube type.

 

Around here, it's about 25 bucks a wheel. If you don't have the tools or experience, you should take it to a shop. Back in the day, I worked in a tire shop so I do my own.

 

You can put a tube tire on a tubeless rim without using a tube. The tube will make the tire run hotter, and isn't needed on a non-tube rim.

Call around before buying the tires. A nip umber of shops will charge less for mounting and balance if you buy the tire from them. The total cost of buying a tire online and having a local shop mount it may be more than if you buy directly from a shop.

 

why does the tube make the tire run hotter?

 

My guess would be (a) friction between the tube, tire & rim and (b) mechanical compression heat generated within the tube rubber itself.

 

True, but sometimes a shop's supply chain is impossibly slow.

I ordered my tires over a month ago. The Brigestone came in immediately, the Duro is still on back order. As an experiment I ordered a second Duro from Dennis Kirk on a tues or wed and got it the following monday... so I had somthing to be put on the bike. Someday my backordered spare will show up...

 

Check the date code when getting a new tire. I got a front tire once that was 3 years old when I bought it and didn't realize it until a couple years later when the sidewalls started cracking.

 

So I'm assuming the only point of having tubeless and tube tires is for people with spoke wheels that need specifically to get a tube-tire. There are some tires that don't work with a tube right?

If I take the wheel's and tires to a normal tire shop like NTB they should be able to do it right? Doesn't have to be a special motorcycle shop...?

 

Yes, with the stock Maxim wheels, a normal tire shop should be able to strip and mount on their machines. However you might need to find a place, maybe a smaller shop, that is willing to do it. The problem you would most likely run into from them is is getting the tires balanced there. Personally, I take them home, throw them across a pair of level jacks on an old axle and balance them that way. Is it as good as the high speed digital balancing they do at a motorcycle shop? NO, but it's free(minus some stick on weights) and if you can get going 150+ on these bikes, please let us know how!!

 

Got a quote for

Front - Bridgestone Front TW101 Trail Wing 100/90H-19 Blackwall Tire - 055891

Back - Duro Rear HF904 Median 130/90S-16 Blackwall Tire - 25-90416-130-TT

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Front - $92.27
Back - $75.96

Balance and fit with wheel off bike: $60
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Total: $238.33
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Is this reasonable?

 

It might be different now but tube type tyres used to have a different inner liner material which meant they tended to leak air more than a proper tubeless tyre if they were fitted without tubes

 

That's roughly what I paid.

 

Got any pictures of yours?

 

Sweet man - bike looks clean too.

 

I shall be ordering these soon - figured I might as well do the rear brakes and wheel bearings while I'm there though so need to wait on those.
Anything else I should do while I have both wheels off ? Heck I may even paint the forks and get those gatters on that have been on the shelf for 6 months.

 

@Old_Ironsights those tires look great!
@Ribo - $60 seems pretty reasonable for mount & balance. I swapped out wheel bearings a few rubber changes ago, All Balls Racing bearings worked great for me! Advice for them, get/borrow/rent a blind bearing puller, makes the job go much much smoother. My local Autozone had one, and offered a rental option (put the whole part on your card, use it, return it for FULL REFUND.) Also, throw the new bearings in the freezer for a day to get them to "shrink" just a touch before install.