For Sale '82 XJ750 Choppah

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4939104254.html
Just because it is an XJ...

 

Ok.... So----- take a 750, change the rake and trail to dangerous proportions, get rid of half your front brakes; yep, makes sense to me.

Reality, as much as one who likes things back original, I have searched much about making one into a long-tubed chopper, but can't find anything that will allow it to be done in a safe manner yet. I DO like the look and stance- it's what i'm trying to figure out how to do but safely.

 

And if your spine is your enemy, it looks like the back shocks have been removed! I never understood why someone would sacrafice rideability for the sake if image. If it made the bike faster, I would understand. I also don't get lowrider cars, but I guess that's just me. Not built for looks, built for speed. Also, and this is also a personal tastes thing, is it sacrelige to put KAWASAKI GREEN on a Yamaha?
I gots ta stope usin wurds that I kant spele.

 

I guess i want to know what you mean when you say a safe manner because you can change the rake without effecting trail you just have to bend your neck which you could either notch your frame and add a gusset to the frame and you'd be pretty safe a longer wheel base adds stability at higher speeds granted it'll make cornering different but as long as he doesn't have negative trail then he should be fine

 

I think I'll politely disagree here til I can wrap my head around that....

 

Well you measure trail from the axle to the ground and a straight line following the neck not the forks and if you angle the neck you should be able to keep the same trail measurement that the bikes originally have my bike the i chopped still has the same rake and trail as stock but a longer wheelbase because i extended it back 6 inches

 

Some people like to go slow! I like torque, not HP, so I build em long and low. Unless it's my Ramcharger, which is hiiigh. Still not fast, though; I've no desire to do that, never have. That's the fun of motorsports, there's something for everyone.

 

I'm not a chop artist, but I still think there's more to it than that- angling the neck more increases trail (making it more stable but less responsive).

Since adding rake to just forks decreases trail, I think the only way you can actually keep the same, or nearly the same trail, would be if you added SOME rake with a new neck angle, PLUS some rake with the forks. Then the "math" would be something along the lines of:

Original neck angle, fork angle and axle position determine original trail

Original neck angle plus extra neck-rake-only increase trail

Adding extra rake to the fork angle reduces trail

SO
In order to maintain good trail while increasing the neck rake, some fork rake should be factored in to reduce overall trail back into acceptable range...

 

question... what is effected if you would put longer forks and not change neck angle or anything at all?
what if you put longer rear shocks on(maybe 1" longer), alone, or in conjunction with longer forks?
what parts of a ride would be effected and how?

 

Adam, here's a good site to read through:

http://www.seegercycle.com/Rake-and-Trail.aspx

 

thank you much hogfiddles

 

Not to mention the problem you can have with oil levels. In extremely long forks that hasn't had the frame neck cut you can have engine failure due to oiling problem or clutch slipping as in a gold wing stopped on a steep hill drowning the clutch to the point bike won't move. This is not a problem with dry sump engines or dry clutch bikes like HD's ,old cb750's etc.

 

Ahhh! The grammar nazi in me is having a conniption fit!

[grammar rant]

Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
Here are a couple mnemonic devices to remember the correct use:
A comes before E in the alphabet, and causes (affect) usually come before effects.
To affect is to alter. An effect is what you end up with.

[/grammar rant]

Thank you. Please carry on.

 

The term Grammar Nazi should be capitalized. There are half-a-dozen other minor errors in your post, but it's summer and I'm not going to point them out while I'm off-the-clock.

Have a nice day

 

Alright, point taken. I'll be quiet now.

 

what's is grahamer?

 

I'm just having fun

 

I'm don't think "half-a-dozen" or "off-the-clock" should be hyphenated. That would make them one word as opposed to phrases.
This is fun!
As for Adam's question, I believe grahamer is the last name of 80s - 90s comedy actor Kelsey. Remember "Cheers" or "McHale's Navy" or Sideshow Bob? I did not know he was a National Socialist!

 

Frasier!

 

Ok let's not bring our political views to this forum bad enough you elected George W TWICE !!!! Sideshow Bob would have been a better choice.

 

You're correct, but not for the reason you give.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29688/is-half-a-dozen-an-accepted-term

Of course (despite my profession) I tend to subscribe to the "everything in English is a preference" school, since English has no academy of the language, therefore no official set of rules.

 

I very much doubt that either Matti or Kelsey Grammar are Nazis (aside from the grammar kind).

 

Ah ha! Hyphenation turns it to an adjective. This is not what I expected to learn on XJbikes tonight, but I'm glad I did!
I feel that language is a living thing that is constantly evolving as usages change. As long as there is comprehension, then the purpose has been met. One of my favorite designers of the 20th century, Herbert Bayer, sought to eliminate capital letters based on the fact that speech does not require them to be understood, and therefore they could be eliminated from written word. I'm glad that never caught on!

 

Very much not so! Just a joke about BaldWonder's Grammar Nazi.
I am extremely proud of the work my grandfather did in the Dutch Underground during WW2. Some of his stories (only ever retold at his funeral) blew my mind. They are reminiscent of scenes from Inglorious Bastards with the hidden Jews under floorboards. SS in the house and everything. I miss him so much.

This may be the biggest sidetrack in the history of XJbikes! Language and Dutch history in a thread about a bike listing!

 

Father was in Holland in 45 was part of Canadian regiment detail to search out nazi stashes of money and stolen property "Royal Canadian Dragoons" tank commander.
It's a small world who knows they may have crossed paths

 

If you go to the Netherlands today, you will still be overwhelmed by the gratitude that is shown to Canadians. My aunts and uncles remember the pure joy of being given chocolate by liberating Canadians after years of starvation. The actions and attitude of Canadian troops is a major reason both sides of my family came to Canada after the war. That and the fact that one of my aunts was in love with a Canadian boy.

 

My great uncles were too busy to go to Europe back then. They had to kick the Japanese back across the Pacific. Uncle Jack was at every major island battle. He always said that never could figure out how it was he was able to live through it. I think this week's work is going to be digging out his maps and letters so they can be scanned and archived. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

As a freelance writer, editor, and author, I’ve learned just to ignore forum mechanics and go for the message. I realize not everyone is an English geek like me and so I leave people alone. I can't rebuild an engine overnight and some can't compose a grammatically correct sentence to save their souls.



All good.

 

i didn't realize that my incorrect grammar would have such an amazing.................. effect............. on this thread.

as for dude-man's thought about capital letters being eradicated from the written word. i'm all for it. who is to say that a place (proper noun) or a persons name, or the first word of a sentence for that matter is more important, or emphasized than any other word in that sentence? you can talk about, johhny and sue all you want, but you wouldn't know what they are up to if is wasn't for verbs.

i find myself 50% of the time not even thinking about capitalizing letters when i am typing, or using "proper" punctuation. if it is a paper or something to be graded or judged, yes, but in talking to people say on the internet, or via texts, it's more of a train of thought thing than a following some rule thing. i'm a dude with thoughts using this platform to express them. there's no rules on how to think (yet anyway).

and i purposely kept capital letters out of this one to walk the walk of my talk

 

That's what YOU think......

 

i type with one finger of one hand so to reach the shift key requires extra effort. so now if you read something from me and you see a upper case letter, you know i put forth extra effort in writing that.
now on to diagramming sentences

 

Work with a buddy who is Dutch and his big saying is "if you ain't Dutch you ain't much" our reply "you know where you can put that wooden shoe"
Lots of Dutch in Vancouver for 2010 Olympics , Holland house crazy every night of the games with lineups forever unless you had Dutch passport then front of the line for him and wife.for me it was Guinness with wife's Irish passport.

 

How 'bout these? "Why does a Dutchman wear wooden shoes? To keep the woodpeckers off his head!"
Or "Wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn't listen."
Apparently we're known for being stubborn.