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Weird ticking noise not good

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by hohenstein23, Jul 25, 2015.

  1. hohenstein23

    hohenstein23 Member

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    I am having a weird ticking noise coming from the head area. I think it's the primary chain but not sure
     
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    Have you checked your exhaust bolts. I was getting a lot of ticking noise when a couple came loose.
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    Loose exhaust can do it but check the cam chain tensioner. Some need adjustment and others are automatic. Not sure about your bike.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Get a length of fuel line and an earplug.
    Stick the earplug in one ear, and one end of the fuel line in the other.
    Take a picture.
    Post it.
    Use the other end of the fuel line as a stethoscope to isolate where the noise is coming from.
    Report back.

    Not to worry you, but there was a TSB about camshaft endplay on the earlier 650 and 750 engines (mine has that issue). I'm pretty sure that the problem was remedied by the time the 700 came out. The TSB said that it did not need to be remedied unless the customer complained as the endplay was not excessive enough to cause any damage. If you do isolate the noise to the head you can pull the valve cover to check camshaft endplay.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    His has an automatic camchain adjuster.
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    I'd check exhaust collars nuts first

    Dave f
     
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    Is it a rhythmic ticking?
    I like Kmoe's idea of posting a pic.
    An alternative is a long shanked screwdriver held with the end of the handle to your ear and the blade touching on the surfaces where you are trying to isolate the noise from.
     
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    I was tightening the nuts and one snapped the whole bolt did not break just what was in the nut. Would it seal good with one nut or is it easy out time
     
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    It' will hold but that won't help us in solving the question about the ticking noise.

    If you snapped the bolt but have a piece still exposed you should be able to unscrew the bolt from the head and replace. See if you can unscrew with a set of vise-grips or pliers first.
     
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    Re- Unscrewing the bolt. Would it be good to use a some sort of oil to help that bolt break free.
     
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    That's a good idea. Never hurts to have a bit of PB blaster or liquid wrench do some of the work for you. Should come loose pretty easily though if you can get a good bite on it with a set of pliers or vise grips.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    A snapped exhaust stud explains the ticking. Both sides of the exahust collar have to be snug for the header to seal.
    Soak the stud in PB Blaster or Kroil. LEave it sit overnight. Soak it again. Repeat for a week. Use a torch to heat the head around that stud, an then try to extract it. I orefer to use two nuts locked together on the remainder of the stud. If the vice grips slip they will chew up the stud and make it harder to extract.
     
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    Yup, what Kmoe said.
     
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    Oh I just snapped it while tightening it from when you said to do it before. So you make it sound like that bolt is threaded into the head. I will get it out. I am leaving now for a five day trip and don't think I will be on thanks
     
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    Oh, that makes sense--- it was probably weakened anyway, causing the collar to be loose.

    We don't " make it sound" like the stud is threaded into the head ...... We're telling you blatantly that " the stud is threaded into the head. That's how they are installed.
     
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    one of my headers has a snapped exhaust nut
    I just left it
    replaced the exhaust gaskets
    you can snug it pretty good thru tightening the exhaust
    it might tick a bit
    if you go with the one nut method
    do not overtighten it cause it will snap
    do I ever plan to Heilicool it? nah
    if it is any other kind of tick I would maybe worry
    just remember that these engines tick a lot
    it is the valves and noise is good
    no noise is not good
     
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    Exhaust leaks at the header aren't good either. Cold air gets sucked in there when the valve closes. That can (though is not guaranteed to) lead to more expensive problems. Rhymes with burnt valve.
     

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