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ramair pod filters

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by ant797, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. ant797

    ant797 Member

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] has anyone tried these so called ramair pod filters on there xj750 there specificly for xj750r was wondering if there was any tuning required https://postimg.org/image/7x5z2b9s1/
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Oh, I can pretty well bet that there would be tuning required....
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    That's a cool brand name. Implying that the filters are a Ram-Air system, without all the pesky trouble of having to back that up legally (and definitely without having to engineer and provide all of the parts for a proper Ram-Air system).
     
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    rocs82650 Well-Known Member

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    None of the xj series models were engineered to run pods with the stock cv carbs.

    Gary H.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    To my knowledge no CV carbed bike was.
     
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    rocs82650 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

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    yeah i asked them directly after they said it would require tuning it would be cool idea though if someone engineered pods to work with whats there already for xj750 make maintenece so much easier and look better too.maybe even just a slimmer airbox
     
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    thats the best answer they have, it makes it so you can not return the pods

    not likely that some mfg is going to develop a working pod for 35 year old limited market bikes. What do they care if you have to problems they just sold you 4 pods and told you it would need some tuning

    clean/change 4 filters or 1 filter .......1 filter is easier

    I only see what is in front of me. if I see my carb boots i am likely in big trouble:(
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    I sometimes wonder..... does this trend to fitting pods on CV carbs have anything to do with a general lack of scientific literacy in the U.S. ?
    Maybe I'm just getting (prematurely) to be a grumpy old man (or a pretentious butthead).
     
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    K-moe...Yes...Yes...Yes
     
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    I don't know if I would go that far, really, I think it is just unfamiliarity with the workings of older technology. Almost all vehicles these days, to my knowledge, use EFI. Sure lawnmowers, generators, etc. use them, but how many consumers actually service these devices? In today's world these items are practically disposable and once they stop working they are replaced, rather than repaired. Until I started frequenting this site, I didn't even know there were different kinds of carbs, and the only reason I was familiar with them at all is because I took a small engines class in high school. I knew about the venturi effect, etc. but I did not know how different applications utilize the scientific principles. Would you consider somebody computer illiterate because they couldn't write in COBOL or FORTRAN? They aren't taught anymore (generally) because they have been superseded, just as carbs have been for the most part.

    All that said, yes, I think general scientific literacy is on the decline; however, they are being replaced by different skills. We are at the point now where it can generally be assumed that most citizens of the United States have access to a computer of some sort, whether it be a smart phone, computer, or whatever. All this information that people previously had to commit to memory is now available in seconds (whether they choose to access it or not is a different story). I think that, and this may just be in my limited experience, more focus is being placed on critical thinking now, e.g. knowing how to quickly find the information that is needed, determining if it is reliable, and how to correctly apply it. Just out of honest curiosity, did you learn about all this stuff in high school, in what would be considered general classes that most people took? I know much more about these systems than my father, and he actually finished college, and is closer to your age (I assume, and no offense is meant by that).

    Now, completely ignoring information provided to you, scientific or otherwise, and banging your head against the wall then expecting sympathy for your headache, that is another story. I guess maybe that seems more common these days, but I don't know. I feel your pain, and I make the same kind of complaints often, but I think if you get past the initial annoyance, and put it into context, there is more at play than plain old ignorance. But maybe I'm just an apologist.

    /rant
     
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    I learned most of what I know by not having enough money to pay other people to fix things for me. I also grew up in a family with a history of fixing things and wanting to understand how things work. My father was a radio operator and machinist, my grandfather a farmer and truck driver (in the days before truck stops so drivers had to fix their own trucks on the roadside much of the time), and my great-grandfather a farmer and blacksmith. I have taken formal classes (three years of electronics in high-school), and mutiple college-level science sourses. I think the main thing is that I feel that I absoultely have to know as much as possible about darned-near everything that I come in contact with. It's a sort of obsession.

    I come across as being old, but am not quite 50 yet. I suppose that is a consequence of my parents not having children until they were nearly 30 (I'm the oldest), which makes me a child of the middle of Gen-X, who was born to parents who were born just before the post WW2 Baby Boom (the tail-end of the Silent Generation). To further the theme, my father's father was almost 40 when dad was born.
     
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    Lack of money is always a good motivator! I didn't have too much instruction on this stuff because my immediate family always paid to have things fixed. They didn't necessarily have the money, but that's a different story. Parents were born in the 60's and had us young.

    I would know very little if it wasn't for sites like this, and I often wonder what the heck I'd do without the wealth of information the internet provides.

    Thanks for sharing the knowledge you have gathered, it's great to know not only what to do, but why to do it.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    As I've said before: I'm just doing what was done for me.
     
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    Sounds like a great heritage, K-Moe.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    That's because I left out all of the scandalous parts....lol
     
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    Oh, that's OK. I don't talk about those parts either. Grin.
     
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    I'm like this too. I sometimes do way too much research before just actually doing something.
     
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    I am proud of my scandalous past. My grandpa was a frikkin' renegade. Smuggling Jews in Holland, running guns under SS noses, just plain awesome! Breaking the right laws in a wrong time for all the right reasons. Also a great mechanic, as is my dad. Happy Father's day to both. Sleep well, grandpa. I miss you.
     
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    i learnt most of what little i know from internet research and trawling i wish i had a better memory but i dont retain much except the basic principle but definately being poor is a great teacher if you have the enthusiasm and interest
     
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