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Engine Identification

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by a100man, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. a100man

    a100man Well-Known Member

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    This is on a uK ebay listing, even the seller isn't sure what it's from. It has the look and shape of
    an 80s XJ/YX/FZ 550/600 but its's water cooled - also has YICS on teh valve cover?! I checked some pics of
    FZR engines and they seem more inclined/canted and have different clutch covers. I might buy it for a fun
    XJ project as I have a spare frame wheels tank...

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    dkavanagh Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I do see the YICS passage below the intake ports.
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Not an XJ---
     
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    a100man Well-Known Member

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    Another clue is that it says 'Magnesium' also on the valve cover.. I've asked for the engine number..
     
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    a100man Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, but there's no question in my mind taht teh bottom end is XJ550/FJ600 and yet I have never before see a water cooled top end on this set-up. I add another pic for your delectation. There includes parts of a what looks like an FZ600 frame - but they were air-cooled :confused:[​IMG]
     
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    OK in 1986 Yamaha produced an FZR400 with liquid cooling.. A possible?
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    I think you''re correct.
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    doesn't look like the pictures I get when I search that engine though.... The alternator cover looks like the X cover......

    I'm wondering if it could be a water jet/jet ski or maybe a four-wheeler engine?
     
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    +1.

    Gary H.
     
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    Could be a put-together engine.
     
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    You're right I see that too. BUT the FZR400 engine appears to change mid-eighties to EXUP valve type and I'm wondering if this is a very early one for which there are few on-line pics. USA and probably EU didn't get the early one so I'm guessing an import (Japs like their 400s right ?) Note also theres some bike frame hanging off it in pic2
     
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    Scrub that - I just downloaded a service manual and the 86 motor is 16 valve and canted cylinders and down-draft carbs. The mystery continues..
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    That appears to be the correct engine, but the frame piece still doesn't match-- all the pics are still round frames if I'm seeing correctly
     
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    Maybe that bit of frame is a red herring, all the pics I find of XJ40oZ have round tube frames and the frame mounts at front lower of engine are bolted to the frame not welded to it. The engine itself sure looks like 400Z. Another 2c worth :)
     
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    Further research reveal the motor also used on the 84 model year FZ400R (faired) and FZ400n (naked) so I guess that explains the frame too, see..
    http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_fz400n 84.htm
    Even so pretty damn rare I reckon.
     
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    Ahhh the wonders of the google machine that's gotta be it then, what are you gunna do now ....... my SRX has that type of bolt on frame section coz the engine is such a tight fit, makes it very narrow overall.
     
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    Ah-HA!! There it is!
     

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