Hard to get in 2nd gear

Hey everybody, so since I got this bike (82 xj1100) it seems like one thing after the next. Carbs needed cleaned, then the battery wouldn't stay charged so I found a melted connection that fixed the problem. I literally just fixed the melted connection and drove her down the road, now it seems next to impossible to get her in 2nd gear. I gassed it down the road and then it was just stuck. If I pull the shifter with my hand, it'll get in gear but it's impractical to drive like that.

Does anybody know what's wrong here? Is this a simple fix or is this something that will involve me flipping the bike over?

I just want to enjoy the roads in this weather

I'm hoping this is just an oil thing, or a cheap and easy fix... Though, I'm not expecting that.

Thanks for your advice!

 

It has been slipping in 2nd when I give it throttle. But that's the only issue I've noticed

 

Worn dogs.
The fix is stickied at xs11.com

 

Hey thanks moe! You're always on top of it, it seems. Promlem is, I can't seem to find the sticky. Can you direct link me?ive been wanting to fix that slipping in second so if this will fix both that'd be great!

 

http://xs11.com/xs11-info/tech-tips...rs-dremmel-technique-a-pictorialwalkthru.html

ww.xs11.com/xs11-info/tech-tips/repairs/transmission/106-the-second-gear-repair-illustrations.html

http://www.xs11.com/xs11-info/tech-...106-the-second-gear-repair-illustrations.html

 

Ok so this is more than likely the definite problem? I would just hate to tear it apart and not fix the issue. I plan on starting to take everything off tomorrow afternoon and I am just making sure that this is it.

I was reading up and there are people who think it might be a bad shift fork and a few other things.

Today I tried again and there was grinding happening and it was just harder to shift the gears.

 

Ok so I started the removal tonight and ran into a few problems. One is that I don't have a socket that's the same size as the clutch nut. Does anybody know the size of this thing? I could only go as high as 24mm and it was too small.

Also, my bike won't allow me to go into 4th gear, I just can't get her to budge and am afraid of doing damage by using too much force. Everything Im reading is talking about the importance of being in 4th gear and I just can't do it.
Any advice in that area would be swell!
Thanks everybody!

 

Xs and XJ 1100's have had issues with second gear if they have beat on during there life. Shift fork bent and or badly worn. Only fix is to replace fork and gear as a set one without the other is a waste of time and money! And in some cases the shift drum as well, if it has been run a long time like that.even if it shifts to second it can "pop out" under hard acceleration. This is due to dogs on the gear rounding off the corners and not wanting to stay in gear and forces against fork and can bend and or burn the face that contacts gear

 

I hope it's not just clutch adjustment or the chain guide breaking up.
Second gear dogs is a drastic thing not just slipping.
I replaced a burnt shift fork and mixed and matched gears, undercut them and never thought about them being a set.
Don't see how a drum would be hurt from this. There are different bearings on drums and the type matters.

 

I believe the nut is 27mm but I'll have to check when I get home.

 

Ok so how am I to do this with being in 4th? I'm taking the rest off tonight but this part us stumping me. And if it won't budge, can it only be a bent shift fork? I need to figure these things out so I know what to order as soon as possible. I want her back on the road! Haha

 

I found it is a 27mm.

 

The fork being pushed back can cause the groove to become larger than it should be allowing fork to flop and let gear push back even More compounding the problem

 

I guess anything's possible

 

I appreciate everyone's input. I'm sitting on this thing trying to get her into 4th though. Is there any what other way of doing this other than with the lever? I can go between first and neutral but second and anything above that the bike won't let me.

 

you're rocking the bike back and forth as your trying?
why is fourth gear so important?

 

finally got it into 4th last night. From what ive read, when taking the transmission out you want it to be in forth. couldnt tell you why. just following the directions lol.

 

Being in fourth makes it easy to get the selector forks in the correct places when you reassemble.

 

everythings going to move once it's apart, actually it'll move as it comes apart. he's going to take the gear clusters and shift forks out.
then he will spend a hour or so being amazed how all that works and playing with it. then he can change his name to TransmissionMan

 

Ok everybody, wondering if I should just make a new thread, I'm in the process of removing second gear. All the write ups say "slide off second gear" this thing will not slide! I got it to move a bit with a hammer but this thing doesn't want to come off!
Any advice?

 

5th gear I mean. Not second

 

Ok so this had to have been a problem. All the gears slide freely on the shaft, but 5th gear was stuck and couldn't move. I can't even get it back on the shaft

 

Sorry for the multi posts but I want you guys to check this out. The one shift fork was worn down from the stuck 5th gear. I'm hoping to be able to do some light sanding on the inside of the gear to help it fit snugly back on.

This has to be why I couldn't get into second gear. 5th gear wouldn't slide in.

Anybody ever seen this before?

 

I've got some gear clusters your welcome to have, but no shift forks and you need those