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Wiring help please

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Ben Walker, May 16, 2017.

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    I've nothing to add...only thanks for this info! Commented so I can find it again in the future when I need it!!
     
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    I meant to follow up on this one before, but it may be more than just a replacement if the starter cutoff relay is combined with the flasher and auto cancel all in one module. It gets a lot more complicated, but if you are willing to re-wire, it can be done. If it is an all in one module you would have to either keep a portion of the original unit, bypass the safety circuit, or replace that portion of the module with another relay to work as a starter cutoff relay.

    If you have a FSM on the bike it will identify the module and its functions.
     
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    What do you mean FSM?
     
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    factory service manual

    relay is all in one
    in seca
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    92 to 95 uk model
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    Ahh it's a xj600 1987 I think there seperate tbh hmm?
     
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    97 up has a hazard relay
    carb heater relay
    flasher relaythat hooks to fuel pump, oil level switch, neutral switch, and connects to tci
     
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    I found this diagram helped me Alot not to mention you all ^^^ cheers I will probably be back when I get around to the lights and indicators
     

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    Ok so I found a found tuit please see picture roundtoit.jpg
    Haha so the flasher relay and starter cut off also the auto canceler are one unit like you said not 2. I have already cut out the self cancelling so that's one less wire I am using the audew flasher relay that was recommended I have the brown, brown/white and red/yellow pulled out of the relay (see pic ones with connectors on)as I believe the rest are not for the indicators. IMG_20170617_164535.jpg then connected like so to the relay IMG_20170617_164555.jpg
    Solid brown is the black wire to the L.
    The brown/white Is the blue/yellow connected to the B also the yellow red is connected to the B also.
    The indicators are connected and ground. They turn on but do not flash! What am I doing wrong please help
    Ben
     
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    Also I Ave tried turning the speed up and down but nothing changes
     
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    when you hear the click when pressing the start button do you have 12v on both of the large terminals on the solenoid? I think you know what should be happening is that on the large terminals one goes to positive terminal of battery, that one should have 12v all the time, the second terminal should not have 12v till you press the start button. Check and see if you have 12v after you press and hold the start button.

    oops didnt see you have 4 pages. I thought you were trying to get the starter to work. sorry
     
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    Ahh i was wondering haha if you know anything about led indicators and led relays that would be great
     
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    Yeah everything works and I tried the normal bulbs before and it all works fine
     
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    I have read through this several times and can't quite get a clear picture of how you have the new relay wired. I am thinking you have the B and L reversed.

    The hot wire (brown) should go to the B pin.
    The load wire (brown/white) connects to the L pin and the other end would go to the switch selector for left or right indicators.
    The yellow/red wire is not needed as it is part of the self cancelling wiring, which you have disabled. It provides a momentary ground when the turn signal is pushed left or right and could potentially damage the new relay if connected.
     
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    Ahh is there a way to bench test the relay as I have tried sawpping the wires maybe faulty relay ?
     
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    Looking at this daigram that is 89-92 and my bike is 87 it looks like the yellow red goes to the handle bar switch along with the brown white hmm
     

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    Connect power and a load to test, like maybe one 20W bulb to the L pin. There are some reviews on Amazon that state the relay did not work with very low power LED's. Also, the data provided on Amazon like so many things today is either inadequate or contradictory. For example from the Amazon webpage:

    "The Max Power of the relay is 42W, which mean the power of your ( all ) LED bulbs must low than 42 W. If more than 42 W, load resistors may be required."

    That is some poor writing skills. You would not add load resistors to reduce power. Also, nothing noted about minimum load as was indicated on some of the reviews.

    The problem with that schematic is it shows a five wire flasher relay, which looks to have the auto cancel combined. The version you have showed 9 or 10 wires, so I don't think we are working with the proper electrical diagram.
     
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    No your right the one I have is all combined I can't seem to get a diagram that is not blury for my year bike
     

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