What yamaha xj650 do I own?

Hello, guys!
Can not find out what model and year. It 650cc, looks like Seca but I need to know for sure .
Frame number unfortunately erased.
Any ideas?

 

I'm not sure, I think XJ650E(4H7) 1981 or 1982.

 

Model Seca, right?

 

Yes SECA - cool tank shape and chain drive.

 

if it is a north american model then yes it is a Seca

so your bike has a missing white tag on front of headstock and the

vin that is stamped into the right side of the head stock is gone too?

put the short vin from motor in this link
http://www.dissingermoto.com/

vin ID
http://www.xjbikes.com/forums/threads/tech-topic-model-id-and-vins.14577/

 

Wasn't called Seca in Europe. And that's definitely not the right seat!

 

Yes...that seat is strapped with a ratchet strap....definitely not original. ..

Is the VIN number stamped on engine by the oil fill hole on right side......

Is that not there also ?

What are the first 3 number/letters ?

 

you bike is a euro model you can tell by the control of the left side has extra buttons on it passing light right control has on/off switch for headlight

plus dual disc brakes and oil cooler

 

It has cardan shaft, not chain drive

 

The sit is from another bike, engine and frame number are gone

 

yes, it came from europe (Germany or Italy).

 

frame & engine number gone ????? is it stolen ??? Yikes !!!

 

This bike was imported as for parts from Europe to Ukraine and to avoid customs tax frame and engine no. was erased.

 

It's got YICS so I believe that makes it 1982 or newer.

 

Here in the USA, one would never be able to title nor ride it like that.....legally.

 

It's not a Seca (US only, 1982).

 

1982-or later XJ650 Euro (or other non-North American) model, I think that color is Code FM Night Fall Blue, supposedly used only on 1984 models.....


1982 XJ650 MODELS:

COUNTRY: EUROPE

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1982 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 11N
FRAME ID: 4K0
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 055101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler. UK model.

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1982 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 11T
FRAME ID: 11T
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler.


COUNTRY: GERMANY

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1982 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 11R
FRAME ID: 4K0
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler.


COUNTRY: OCEANIA

MODEL NAME: XJ650RJ
STREET NAME: 1982 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 14R
FRAME ID: 14R
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes, an oil cooler, and uses a YICS-equipped engine




1983 XJ650 MODELS:

COUNTRY: EUROPE

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1983 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 27F
FRAME ID: 4K0
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 070101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler.

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1983 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 27G
FRAME ID: 4K0
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler.

MODEL NAME: XJ650
STREET NAME: 1983 XJ650
MODEL ID CODE: 30K
FRAME ID: 4K0
SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 300101
NOTE: styling and features the same as North American XJ650RJ Seca model, has dual front disc brakes and an oil cooler. Sold in Switzerland only.

 

P.S. interesting crash bar....

P.S.S. beautiful bike!

 

Not entirely accurate. While the U.S. only got the Seca 650 in 1982, the rest of the world got it for several years, but without the Seca name attached.

 

Definitely euro model with oil cooler.
Lights on and off switch and "pass" button

 

So therefore---it's not a Seca.

It's a European XJ650.

 

Why no Seca in Europe? Too many Spanish speakers? Would they all wonder why the bike is called "Dry"? Without the "Laguna" part, the name is sort of strange.

 

Yes. 97% the same machine though.

 

Marketing. Model names are typically market specific. Take the Mazda MX-5 for example. Mazda Miata in the U.S., Eunos Roadster in Japan; same car, with minor differences to meet regulations for the specific market.

 

I have a Buick Allure, otherwise known as Lacrosse.
Apparently in Quebec, Lacrosse is a slang term for tossing off, LOL.

 

Sounds sort of alluring!

 

I have read through the whole identification forum and am still confused.
I know it is a 650, and not a Maxim.
Does anyone know what type my bike is if my shorty identification number is 4K1-000919
Sorry if this is all a pain.

 

It’s just an xj650r that in North America is called a Seca. And the letter after the “r” is the year designator.
So H=81 J=82 K=83 L=84
The only oddball is Canadian model is an Xj650rjc “C “ designation for Canada only in 82 for second series of bikes that had yics engines.

 

VIN INFO:

World Manufacturer Identifier:

J = Japan, Y=Yamaha, A= Motorcycle

Vehicle Characteristics

4K100 = 1981 XJ650H Oceania

Check Digit:1

Model Year: B = 1981

Assembly Plant:

A = Iwata City Production Facility

Serial Number: 00091 is the Serial Number.


seca is ehe name of a race track in the US

your bike probaly has dual disc and the slender tank

does bike look like this notice the long side covers and tank and low handle bars and flat seat
https://bikez.com/motorcycles/yamaha_xj_650_1982.php

this is maxim style
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xj650_maxim.htm

 

Yes!!
That's her! The seca.
Thanks so much.
overtime I input the shorty ID into a linked convertor it would come up with a 550 maxim.
Thanks for the help, now i can get back to rebuilding her.

 

US had Maxim & Seca. Europe had Maxim & XJ650
Seca and European XJ650 = almost identical

 

What maxim did Europe have

 

I think any Maxims in Europe are gray imports
They were marketed for NA only I think

 

That's what always thought, too, but Andy indicates otherwise, so was piqued to find out what he knows

 

maybe the ones brought onto the military bases, then left behind.

 

Bingo.


A lot of XJ700's can be found in South American, too. Why?

"all of them were imported in the 90's (at that time the government allowed for a short time to import used vehicles from abroad)


Why are there so many XJ650 Police bikes in Nepal?

"there were 300 XJ650's gifted by Japan on the occasion of King Birendra's crown ceremony."


As is so often the case, the bikes lasted a lot longer than the King did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

 

Sorry, haven't been here for a while
XJ650 4KO (US Seca clone) and XJ650 Turbo were direct imports. Not sure about Maxims, they are much rarer in Europe but they are around. It would be interesting to see where they are located geographically in the UK, there are/were plenty of airbases in East Anglia

What I was trying to point out is that the 4KO and the Seca are to all intents and purposes the same thing

 

lighting system may be different . you have an on off switch for the head light? also an oil cooler?
oil cooler is an option in US and we have to have lights on always

 

Yes, also carb jetting varies but to a non-forensic eye, same bike

 

carb specs

http://xjbikes.wikidot.com/carb-specs