1. Hello Guest. You have limited privileges and you can't "SEARCH" the forums. Please "Log In" or "Sign Up" for additional functionality. Click HERE to proceed.

Why did you buy an XJ?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Jetfixer, May 13, 2017.

  1. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    So my dad rides a 97 Honda Goldwing looks brand new it is the 2nd goldwing he has owned . So now he wants a Slingshot he was at a steeler ship my mom was discussing a possible trade....and salesman (use that term loosly) laughed and said my dad bike was vintage and NO one wants an OLD bike...so he lost a sale. It amazes me that unless it is a sport bike dealers don't want to talk to you. I love my OLD MAN bike , I enjoy working on it it has it quirks may not turn heads , may not be a 150 mph bike ( at my age I don't need one either) one reason I do not like dealers it usually a young kid who only rides sport bikes that is all they want to sell even cruisers are not highly thought of. That is another reason I prefer the XJ if yamaha ever brought it back I'd buy one wishful thinking I know. Just read that HD is in bad shape that millenials are not buying bikes and folks are not riding like they used to ....but HD problems boil down to high price and technology that is quite old. Before you think I'm bashing them I had a Buell ....they should have never killed the brand off , they should bring out an off road model and dare I say it a sport model. Okay that was my rant.
     
    RCHER likes this.
  2. XJ550H

    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    13,199
    Likes Received:
    3,860
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Great North Woods
    WHAT you don't want to stand on the seat and ride a wheelie down the road for 4 or 5 miles?;)
    My neighbor rolled his HD out into the drive way after a half hour he pushed his bike back into the garage couldn't get it started;)
     
  3. Door dude

    Door dude Active Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Mountain Home Arkansas
    Something that i've noticed over the years is that when someone invented something that WORKS GREAT with in a short period of time it is discontinued. i guess making things out of inferior products for less cost and the more they can charge you and that will up the service calls to repair it. MONEY MONEY MONEY.
     
  4. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    Finally rode about 40 miles ( got work to do at home) so nice to ride again . Stopped by a dealership drooled over some new bikes love the new Indian scout only thing keeping me from it 13k and sat on a 2014 Honda 1100 6900$ only thing I was on tip toes and seat was rock hard. I don't think I would have liked it. I sat on a new Yamaha Bolt 6800$ i really liked it BUT after I left got on my xj and took off hit 6k and smiled it is mine it is comfortable runs great is as close to stock as it was in 82 . I noticed sitting on some of the new bikes i really don't care for the forward controls prefer the controls on my xj .
     
    kosel, Wintersdark and Plug like this.
  5. Wintersdark

    Wintersdark Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    691
    Likes Received:
    290
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Yeah, even on more cruiserish bikes, I strongly prefer midset controls. I mean, having a second set forward is great for when you want to kick back, but I find having your feet forwards prevents your offloading your body weight to your feet too, so your butt gets sore over time. This is particularly significant if you live somewhere where roads aren't always great - potholes smashing your spine suck. I had both on my sportster, standard midset controls and forward controls with linkages - really liked that. Just having forwards, though... eh.

    Or maybe I'm just too fat. That's a possibility too! :)
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  6. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    I'm vertically challenged (5'6") and a little oh okay I'm fat so I have a pillow built in it is a 6 pack ab carrying case so sport bikes are not real comfortable to ride and yes I have rode them and even owned a 92 xj600 seca 2 for a few days bought it without wife's knowledge , dealer took it back and got my Kawasaki 550 Ltd back . My first brand new bike was an 02 Buel Blast 500 my first thumper put over 11000k tought a coworker how to ride in parking lot he loved it and bought it off of me he rode it another 6k and traded it it in on a new Honda shadow. I personally am not real comfortable with the full forward controls . Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki all at one time had 350,400,500,550,650,750,900,1000,1100 4 cylinder bikes the universal Japanese bikes as they were known were the rage , British bikes were by the 80' s done in by the bikes from the orient . The Japanese bikes did not leak oil, vibrate , would run forever with a little maintenance. Meanwhile HD was still trying to recover from AMF ownership they leaked oil, vibrated worse than a paint shaker , were little removed from 1920's technology ( still using 45 degree V twin ) they were not real reliable either ( they have come a long way since the 80's ) dont get me wrong I found a 1200 sportster I liked today but at 7600$ with 1200 miles on it was more than I want to pay. As long as we have xj4ever and eBay I can keep improving and doing small upgrades to my bike and I'm happy I bought it my plan at first was to do a little work and flip this bike , but after awhile I was hooked happy motoring :)
     
  7. Dave in Ireland

    Dave in Ireland Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    575
    Likes Received:
    325
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Ireland
    For ultra-high mileage on an XJ engine, I refer you to my mate Jamie's XJ900F. Back in the early 90s he bought it used, as a relatively high miles machine - the wrinkle was, everybody thought 30K miles was 'high' for a bike. So, he got it cheap.
    Over the next three or four years he put about 200K on it - that's miles, not kms.
    He then traded it to a dealer, who in turn punted it out cheap as a 'high mileage' bike - the wrinkle there was, Jamie had really looked after the cosmetics and the odometer had only recently turned over again, so although it showed 30K , it was actually on about 230K.
    A couple of years later he happened to meet the new owner, another courier, who said he was pleased as Punch with the way it just carried on running, and he'd put about another 60 or 70K on it.
    Sooo.... that bike, at last time of seeing it, had done, we reckoned 300 Thousand Miles.
    The only mechanical work that ever needed doing was the Achilles Heel of these engines, the starter chain. That got done at around 90K and never got done again, as far as we know.
    My own XJ900F had 100K on it when I bought it, cheap. I had no hesitation in buying it, as I knew this engine will carry on going for a good many years yet.

    As for my other bikes, I have a pair of Suzuki GS850s, one of which has nearly 200K and the other is getting up towards 300K now.

    So, if you're looking for a secret to high mileage on any of the Big Four four-stroke engines - change the oil every 2 or 3K and don't thrash them too much. Look after the routine maintenance and it will just carry on running.
     
    dowski68 and Jetfixer like this.
  8. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Scotland UK.
    It is amazing the mileages these bikes do someone once called the XJ's the Volvo's of motorcycles, meaning longevity not boring.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  9. seaguy

    seaguy Member

    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Coastal,AL
    Got my 82 XJ650 for $100. Only mod was the aftermarket exhaust. Guy had rung off five of the intake bolts. Best riding bike I have ever owned.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  10. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Scotland UK.
    Yes l liked the 650 too l always liked the XJ range of bikes.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  11. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    I Yamaha would make an updated XJ with a 4 cylinder and keep price around 6 to 8 K price range they would sell !!! I know I'd buy one .
     
    Franz likes this.
  12. Dave in Ireland

    Dave in Ireland Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    575
    Likes Received:
    325
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Ireland
    The spiritual successor to the XJ line still currently in production, is the FJR1300 model.
    Too rich for me, but I'll have a serious look at the older FJRs sometime in the next year or two, as I always fancied an 1100+. Given that the first FJR13 is now 17 years old, it might be cheap enough.
    http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/Yamaha_FJR_1300_ES_18.htm
     
  13. Glen Botterbrodt

    Glen Botterbrodt Member

    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Washington D.C.
    My Triumph was stolen and then totaled so I needed a bike to keep me happy. FB market place search of project and I saw a beautiful 82 650 Seca pictured and had to have it. I truly love these older Yamaha’s and can’t wait to get mine looking great again.
     
  14. RCHER

    RCHER New Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Beatrice Nebraska
    I have wanted one since I first laid eyes on one in the little Yamaha dealers shop when they first came out. I watch the local CL and shortly after picking up a 96 FZR600 I planed to fix up and turn. (I just retired and thought this is what I needed to keep me busy.) This XJ650LJ showed up. Now I had to borrow the money for the XJ. But I was successful in finding the owner and making the purchase. It only had 9100 miles on it so it didn't need much. It runs great! Brought it home and started in. I have done a few of the required updates (rear brake shoes and new fuse box) so far and have been putting a few miles on it with short rides to build up my confidence in it. It let me down the other day, but it was just the vacuum line had come off the petcock. The riding position is perfect! It shifts so smooth. I couldn't believe I could find one in this condition after so many years. For now it sits with my 01FZ1 and my FZR. I just have a couple of things to do and I think I could take this thing cross country. I appreciate all the information in this thread. It has helped me to avoid some serious hazards that would have plagued me if I hadn't known about them first.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  15. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Scotland UK.
    I always wanted an XJ too RCHER and my brother bought me a 900f for my birthday otherwise I could not have got one. I am a lucky man.
     
  16. nablats

    nablats Member

    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    whitby
    mine was in a friends shed, unmoved for ten years. I always liked the seca style, my uk xj650 is getting full engine stripdown with straight bars, single seat, cusom made 4 into 4 exhaust, gps speedo led tail/indicators.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  17. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Scotland UK.
    I love my XJ 900f always wanted one. It just ticks all the boxes for me. Best present l ever got.
     
  18. wibblee

    wibblee New Member

    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Ontario
    Wife's dad had a Maxim 650 before he died. While visiting a long-lost uncle, noticed an old bike on the lawn, growing grass out of the seat and mouse nests in the headlight bucket. Turns out it was the wife's dad's and had been sitting there for about 30 years. Motor was (is) seized and anything that could rot or rust, did. Swapped the title over, and brought it home in parts.

    Was looking for a parts bike to try and frankenstein one working bike and came across a very low mileage running xj650 for $1000. (around here, parts bikes are going for $900) Scooped it up and honestly, I'm loving it. It's so damn comfortable. I hated the big seat, the buckhorn handlebars and huge mirrors, until I rode it and realized how perfectly everything worked.

    So now, the plan is to try and refurb BOTH bikes. Once I started getting into it, I noticed the problems with the original non-running bike might be more solvable than I originally thought. I might end up with two 83's with less than 20K on them.
     
  19. Colin 85 700

    Colin 85 700 Active Member

    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    Thunder Bay, ON
    True story...
    Just started riding on the road three years ago, running a 1978 Yamaha dt175 2-stroke enduro. (I'm very throttle happy figured id start small to reduce tickets). Anyhow...
    I get a call from my brother, he asks me if I'm still into bow hunting and motorcycles... YES!
    He tells me his neighbours brother has a mint compound bow, and a Yamaha motorcycle for sale, either one has to be worth 1000-1200 buck easy and if I show up in the next 30 minutes with $300 I can take my pick! ;)
    I show up and the bike is outside, running, and my bro is frapping it off 6000 rpm with an open header, his neighbour is afraid he's pissing people off n yelling at him cause it's so loud... (I had a chubby)
    I look it over and it literally needs a seat and rear turn signals for a safety, albeit the grab bars, badging etc are missing, it has stupid Z bars that hit the tank...
    I drove it.... It scared me...
    I made dude write me a receipt right there on a piece of cardboard, I went home grabbed my helmet and other bike plate and drove it home.
    Put in 800 bucks to make it stock looking, (badges, hanlebars, signals seat etc. )oils + filters etc for maintenance
    I'm on year three and it just runs, hard, every day.... Love this bike :)
     
    TheCrazyGnat and MattiThundrrr like this.
  20. Colin 85 700

    Colin 85 700 Active Member

    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    Thunder Bay, ON
    Haha, never did even look at the bow come to think of it..... ;)
     
    TheCrazyGnat and Dave in Ireland like this.

Share This Page