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  1. cds1984

    cds1984 Active Member

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    Sorry, I was being sarcastic, and I haven't even started drinking yet.

    I spend pretty much all my time fixing other peoples code, the fact is, logic is logic.
    True or False is the basis of all computing and you're right that some times coders get carried away and lose sight of the end goal, and a lot of the time the start point, when gripped by a complex set of defined outcomes but...

    We are talking about software that counts votes.

    For the life of me I can't see it being overly complex.

    Maybe they will release the source code so we can have a squiz, couldn't be too proprietary I'd think.
     
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    Please don't make this mistake again..........:)
     
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    Could luck with that! Maybe someone will hack it, they do it to everyone else.
     
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    A hell of a rush for the hackers, but short lived, 0day vulnerabilities don't stay that way for long because of the urge to brag about it.
    Although, check out Kevin Mitnick's site he is still doing funky things, as well as brokering 0day vulnerabilities... no law against that! (surely)
    https://www.mitnicksecurity.com
    Maybe he has one!

    Although it's bad I do love the line from the movie 'I have to know'... or something like that.
     
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    Probably true, but it's really hard to protect against the "social vulnerabilities", i.e. unknowing, uncaring, cognitively challenged, or just plain vindictive people who scribble down all their passwords on a post-it note taped to their screen, choose "password" as their password (they think they're being tricky if they use "password1" and "password2" to throw people off), or start answering questions from unknown strangers about certain issues, etc. It's hard to get past that, sometimes even among system admins, etc. Laziness, overworked, or just general sloth (one of the seven deadly sins) are tough things to overcome.
     
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    No worries mate! But thanks for the note.
     
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    Just because I'm pendantic, lets all realise that people who penetrate systems with passwords are known as crackers.
    People who penetrate systems with uknown vulnerabilities (0day) are called hackers (albeit Black hat)
    Everyone else who hacks away coding is a hacker (as is most of the population who doesn't give up on working something, or anything out).

    In today's age of 'cracking' it is definitely ideal to facilitate 2FA (two factor authentication) no matter how painful it is.
    Hardware based 2FA is even better, until the 'hackers' penetrate the particular hardware key system you are using...

    It's a moving goal post.
    Forever vigilant, you must be...
     
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    Chacal, that “narrative” doesn’t reflect Einstein’s thought experiments at all and it’s completely useless. We’re not talking about physics, but law. And his thought experiments resulted in testable hypotheses, where your “theory” is just a lot of non sense with no evidence. Honestly sounds more like a B-movie than a smooth running XJ, the kind of thing where “experts” (and even college students studying the material) just laugh at the leaps in logic.

    I stick by my statement that there is no evidence that Joe Biden didn’t win the popular vote AND the electoral college. Judges in multiple states have thrown out these crackpot theories in every case because 1. There is no evidence in widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election, and 2. Trump is arguing to throw out millions of legal votes because of said crackpot theories with no evidence, or the tiniest inconsistencies that happen in every election but don’t affect the outcome.

    Now even Juliani is admitting that he’s not trying to win in court, just tying up the certification so Republican state legislators can send their own electors instead of following the will of the people. This may be a dangerous ploy, if the ones carrying it out weren’t so incompetent. Heck he even quotes My Cousin Vinnie as a legal argument!
    So how’s this for a thought experiment? The president is a sore loser and even cheats at golf of all sports (well documented and what he’s doing right now instead of dealing with the transition or COVID). He is trying to maintain power by sowing doubt in a free and fair (if you call the electoral college fair) election. There’s PLENTY of evidence for that “theory” you don’t need hackers and conspiracies for that one. And I didn’t invoke Einstein once.
     
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    My town just pased a mandated mask ordance and state did to .
    town has no penalty for not wearing a mask they will revisit in 30 days
    state mandate has peniltys BUT if you do not have a mask on all you have to do is claim medical exemption with no supporting documents and you do not have to wear one.
    amazing how many now have "medical exemption"s claims

    problem i see is we do not want to tell those who should stay home to stay home. if you have a medical exemption you should be required to stay home.
    walmart will shop your order for you including food and bring it to your car no reason to have a mask if you are in your car.

    people suck
     
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    Yes... we do.
    Just a bunch of bastards basically.
     
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    Thanks.


    That ink absolutely does not show what I am talking about. It even explicitly says so in that comment. And at the link.

    The link is pneumonia and influenza, not pneumonia and COVID. Since there was no widespread mask wearing for the flu, you cannot blame pneumonia on masks.



    You might want to take that up with whoever claimed that. Don't know who that was, but it wasn't me.


    If it's so effective, why isn't it being used all over the place? Is some force holding it back and letting people die? You just said doctors aren't all liars or dupes.

    Is it some faceless THEM? (Mind you, I can invent a conspiracy theory here that will make your head spin, I'm pretty good at that. )


    With limited airflow they still won't go as far. Plus, they have a limited lifespan. As much as they are alive anyway.

    We are still talking about wearing masks in public places around other people, not every hour of every day.

    Yet again. Even if they are 5% effective, 5>0. I'll take what I can


    You are walking across a parking lot to, say, Home Depot, and suddenly a guy with wild eyes, no teeth, and a distinct smell of urine comes up to you and starts saying something about some great truth. You gonna stand there and hear him out, or you gonna give him a dollar and move along?

    This video is the online equivalent of that. And I'm not even going to give him a dollar.

    You want to say something, say it like an adult human. Playing cutesy tricks with slow music and fading text is not presenting information, it's trying to create a mood and manipulate emotion. I don't like being manipulated, and I am not watching nonsense like that.


    This here is what's known as a non-sequitur. One does not follow from the other. And you are once again trying to get people to believe by inferring unrelated things are connected.


    The more I look at this, the weirder it gets.

    First of all, Bio-ID Diagnostic Inc. does not have an operational website. What company in 2020 doesn't have a website? My local ice cream shop has one.

    One site lists this as an address, but it isn't working http://www.bio-id-diagnostic.com/

    Second, that article is about the only news reference to that company. You'd think they would be all over the news, trying to get funding. But no. Just this one blurb in a local paper.

    Third, this company is everywhere and nowhere. In the video he says "North Carolina". In the article it's "Headquartered in Edmonton, with a lab in North Carolina". Bloomberg profile and SEC have it as located in Saskatoon. There is no NC address for it. The only US address I found was on some seriously murky organization's page, and it was in Cleveland. The email contact has a Netzero address, which is hilarious as all get-out.

    For someone with a mind to "connect the dots", this looks like something between a government black box and Umbrella Corporation.


    Warmer.

    This at least seems to confirm the meeting happened.

    What it doesn't tell us is whether this faceless caller was indeed Dr. Hodkins. Or, if he is the authority he says he is. It's perfectly possible even for a doctor to get a little soft in the head.

    Oh, you know exactly what they are. Like Infowars, but more low-rent. Places where you can learn about gay frogs, the life cycle of The Black Helicopter, how to properly wear a foil hat, all about flying saucers, and the best ways to resist the impending invasion of UN troops.

    No. I am referring to about half the results being links to FB pages of random people reposting the copypasta of the alleged doctor's speech.

    Or even worse

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    Suppose it didn't. It doesn't prove... well, anything you said up to this point, really. It's just another open-ended invitation to jump to some conclusion.

    Paywall.

    Also - at this point there is nothing mysterious about that, and hasn't been for a while. It was tainted vape juice, someone used cosmetics-grade glycerin instead of food-grade.

    Yes, let's attribute every death ever to COVID.

    Also, let's pretend The Sun is a reputable news source, and not the UK counterpart to the National Enquirer.
     
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    Phew...
    The end of the lunacy is near :)
    Less than 2 months that the world can be further dumbfounded and exhausted by the shenanigans of the current american leadership.
    Lets kill this thread (maybe delete it and pretend we never had the discussion also) and as I previously and originally stated.

    I apologize for starting it.

    Woot America, good work!
     
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    Just wowwwwwwwwwwwww..... i NEVER thought i would see garbage like this infect a motorcycle forum, but...... some of you need to find something else to do before your brains fall out, if you have any left anyway.

    I usually dont get involved in politics, because i think ALL suits lie on BOTH sides. You never see these A-holes until they want your vote. To vote for any of them, is the problem. They lie cheat and steal from us!

    Anyone who doesent believe there was cheating and fraud in this election, you`ll get a dose of socialism coming right up that will change your mind about the suits you voted into power.

    I wont be around much longer, but good luck with your elected idiots. You`ll get what you deserve, because ALL elections ALWAYS have consequences.

    All fun and games, until you run out of the other peoples money! Get ready for higher taxes, loss of your 401K, pensions gone, jobs sold out again.

    Sorry folks, i`ll NOT EVER bring myself to vote for a man to run the country that touches children inappropriately, or a prostitute for VP.

    Some of you have no shame. Most of you voted with your feelings with hate, instead of policy and what is good for the country.



    Oh yeah, and the virus... yup, its a virus, yup, its a bad one, yup, any virus can kill you. To bad most of you are letting it control you.


    Great ain`t it?!?!?! No, not really, its actually pathetic to see how some of you act.

    ;)
     
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    sorry to hear that, are you going to leave the country or die ?
     
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    Not sure how to take your comment, whether you mean`t it condescendingly, or otherwise, i`ll give it the benefit of the doubt.
    I`m not a hollyweird actor or a TV star, so i`ll NEVER leave my (USA) country. I will ALWAYS defend MY country to the death. To bad others can`t get with that.
    I`m a much older fella, my time is running out very fast, alot faster than i care to divulge, here. We ALL die someday. But keep in mind, dieing is easy, its living that is harder.

    Venezuela 2.0 is well on its way. People will reap what they`ve sewn. Good Luck! ;)
     
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    I'm gonna call 'em as I see 'em. You probably won't like it, but it's better than me doing PC weaseling, right?

    Yah, insulting people totally works to convince them to agree with you. </sarcasm>

    So... you think not voting at all will somehow fix this? Or do you have another solution?

    I think it's fair to say there is some amount of fraud in every election, but never enough of it to really matter. Court filings and their failings demonstrate that pretty handily.

    If you want to claim that fraud is the only reason Biden got elected... You would be doing the same thing as the people who claim that NRA is the uber-powerful entity directing gun policy. You are inventing a conspiracy because it's too hard for you to believe that a fairly large amount of people thinks differently from you.

    I grew up in the actual Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I think that qualifies me to know what Socialism is.

    I have also read the Democratic platform. While they have a lot of stuff I disagree with and dislike, Socialism it ain't. This is really just a variation on "everyone I don't like is literally Hitler".

    You said you are not leaving the country. Which means they are your elected idiots too, like it or not. Or are you gonna do like Progressives and run around for four years screaming how he's not your president? Didn't make a difference for them, won't make a difference for you.

    We already have all that courtesy of Republicans.

    I just got done paying a $2500 tax bill due to the current administration making tax code changes. So, pardon me if my wallet doesn't buy this idea that they lower taxes.

    Jobs sold out... You mean like this?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...me-production-overseas-offset-tariffs-n886231

    Note the date. It wasn't Democrats running things in 2018.


    True. Shame is a control mechanism for insecure people.

    People who voted the other way also voted with feelings. Because if you look at what happened policy-wise last four years, it was definitely more bad than good - see above. But you gotta vote for them because Democrats are evil hell-spawn, right?

    What does that even mean?

    Are you talking about taking precautions? I mean, you can be like this guy and not let the gator control you.

    https://gawker.com/f***-that-alligator-man-killed-seconds-after-mocking-1715887134

    Sure showed him didn't he?

    There is no shortage of stories about people being all tough guy about Covid, and then getting it. Like this guy:

    https://www.insider.com/ohio-man-veteran-died-coronavirus-mask-facebook-posts-2020-7


    You trying to shame us? If you think we have no shame, why do you think that would work? :D

    I don't think you know what happened in Venezuela as well as you think you do. But that's kinda it's own longish discussion.
     
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    I am an educated Qanon, this is all about The Great Reset, which you will understand more as this goes on. Be confident in knowing that God, The World, and Trump wins in the end, Love my 1983 Maxim 650, Carry on....
     
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