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How do you remove a stripped oil nut?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by klynch13, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. klynch13

    klynch13 New Member

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    I accidently stripped the outside of my oil nut. The bike was sitting for 2 years before I got it. The nut is frozen. Tried to loosen it with a hammer, used liquid wrench and a pair of vice grips also. I'm open to any suggestions.

    Thanks

    -Keith
     
  2. SnoSheriff

    SnoSheriff Site Owner Staff Member Administrator

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    Before you do any further work spray the bolt with Liquid Wrench, Release All or other penetrating oil. Sears sells Bolt Out (item #00952162000 on their website) that should help you remove the stripped bolt.

    If that fails you probably you may try using something like Drill-Out Power Extractor (item #00952155000).

    I have a friend who’s a car mechanic and he just hammers on an impact socket onto a stripped bolt head. Since you are dealing with a motorcycle that’s much more delicate then cars I would not recommend doing that.

    Good luck and keep us posted on your project.
     
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    Personally mine was not stripped but it was stuck pretty solid. I locked on a set of vise grips after spraying some PB oil and then sed a hammer on the vise grip. Not sure what else to tell you. I cannot believe it will not come loose then. Did the person JB weld the thing in????? Sorry I cannot be mor help.
     
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    If you have a rotary tool you could also grind down the stripped head to a smaller socket size or just grind down 2 opposite sides for a wrench.

    Speaking of JB Weld… You could also try JB welding another bolt on top of the stripped one and try undoing the whole thing using the new welded bolt head.
     
  5. klynch13

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    I got it off using a heat gun. I used liquid wrench btw and a vice grip but it probably did help. I have another question though. Is there another plug to empty the oil besides wheree the filter is? I don't have the manual. The viewer window shows there is still too much oil in it even after the change.

    Thanks guys.

    -Keith
     
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    The filter casing has a bolt to open it. Directly underneath that filter casing you will see another bolt on the engine. This is your oil drain plug. Remove this plug to drain the remaining oil :wink:
     
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    Yeah I found it after Looking again. I knew that was it. Weird place to put a phillips screw in the plug. Must serve a purpose though. After feeling around for it and cleaning it off I was able to get a socket on it. I did a blog on the outcome and a little family history on the bike. So take a gander.

    Thanks again!

    -Keith
     
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    If anyone else comes across this problem they might like to try a tool called Irwin stud extractors. This suceeded when all else had failed for me.

    Nobby C
     
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    When mine wouldn't come off I used vice grips and then the head was really nice and round. So round that it lent itself nicely to using a die to thread it. I rummaged around, found a nut that was close, threaded the rounded head, and then threaded the nut onto it. Then I welded the centre (the bolt) to the outer part (the nut), and was able to easily undo it then with whatever very large wrench it took, maybe 15/16ths. Yeah not metric but it was handy.
    The only thing then is to watch not to over-tighten it....maybe the best approach is to replace it, once you do get it off.
    Jim
     
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    I dread changing the Oil Filter in mine.

    The bolt is usually a real beast to get out. Last time I had it out I didnt have any never seize around... :(

    After tearing down the top half and knowing I got some foreign material in the case I did two oil changes. One at 500 miles and one at 1000 miles.

    The 500 mile one produced some particles... The 1000 mile one didnt have to much "extra" stuff in it.
     
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    after all i've heard im afraind of changing mine!!

    i figure it's not bothering and the bike runs fine

    so why bother with it!

    should i do it? :roll:
     
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    As long as you put the filter back on with a shorter rachet than you used to take it off... :) It doesn't need be put on ridiculously tight as when it heat cycles it will get tighter anyhow.

    I did mine yesterday - 6 sided socket with not much force it came off. I'm trying to get rid of an annoying leak - replaced the large oring but it still might be dripping. Might have to get the lip polished. (I say still might be dripping as it could be oil that got on the outside of the cover)
     
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    After replacing my bolt and torquing the replacement back on to the correct specs, I've never had an issue with filter replacement. Just do it right the first time folks and the hair-pulling, teeth-nashing problems won't follow you around! I would not postpone an oil filter change for any reason, you should replace it each time (they are cheap enough) and if you have particulate matter comming out of the beast, you need it even more!!!! Woot, don't forget the small o-ring on the bolt! Fram's filter kits include both o-rings and are about $5 USD. If you have issues with the mating up of the two metal surfaces, I would highly suspect you impacted something (barring obvious particulate contamination of course).
     
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    This filter didn't have the little oring for the filterbolt. I did just replace the larger one that goes between the case and the filter assembly. It seemed to be dripping from the bottom of the filter assembly.

    I very carefully cleaned the ring that the oring goes into - put the new one in and cleaned the corresponding area on the case. I did notice one very little nick in the filter assembly and if it continues to leak I will need to get that polished out... it is possible that I dropped it two oil changes ago although I don't remember doing that.

    Then again - the new oring could have solved the problem - it might have been a bit of waste oil dripping that I noticed this morning. Certainly the leak has slowed down since I put the oring in - before it would have had a teaspoon of oil on the floor by now. I moved the paper towel and I'll check it over the next few days.

    Still waiting for my lawn to dry up a little bit before I drag the bike across it.

    Woot.
     
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    I hope for your sake it is a simple fix. I hate oil leaks (far too many in my life right now). My HOA is riding my butt about my oil spots. Jerks, I clean them up at least 3 to 4 times a week. I don't want them any more than they do, but I haven't the funds to fix most of them right now. Grrrrr....
     
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    update: no drips today... oil drip problem appears to be solved. I might need to do an oil change really soon as I think I can see junk in the sight glass window. Hoping it's not related to the oil level dropping slowly over the winter. :-/
     
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    Junk in the sight glass? Gad, what have you been up to? Glad the drip went away, but junk? What kind of junk?
     
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    clear oil in the top 7/8ths and what looks a bit cloudy in the bottom. I haven't started the bike yet - I'm going to bump it over a few times to start the oil moving and see what it does.

    Could just be me being a hypocondriac.
     
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    ok i'll be careful!

    the thing is the bike was sitting for years,

    and it hasnt been done since then!

    thx
     
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    You'll be fine - just go slow. You can easily get a replacement filter bolt... infact it's not a bad spare part to have anyhow. I've got two spares.

    Just make sure you turn it the right way - the previous owner snapped mine...
     

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