TURN SIGNAL RELAY

read the posts on here but I have a problem not listed. I made sure 1156 bulbs are in all my signals. tested each light with 12 v. the all come on. the only way I can get them th flash is to pull the relay connector off and put it on 1 conneteor at a time and the connector is only slid on 1/8th inch then they work, cancel and every thing is fine. but push the connector all the way on and theres a click from the relay but no lights. I shined up the terminals but still have the problem. Relay bad? any suggestions?

 

i just replaced my relay today with an electronic one for nine bucks dont have the auto canelor anymore but that works for me. but any way you might take off your relay and pry the housing off and check the points mine was so rusted is why i got a new one beyond cleaning the contacts but you might try it and see what hapens.

 

Sounds like your flasher pigtail is worn out/dirty. I'd look at that. Replace it if needed.

 

turns out it was the cancelling unit. I unplugged it and they work fine. I checked with the local yamashop no longer available. got 1 comming from fle bay for 9.99 . I hope its a good one.

 

I read/heard (not sure which) somewhere that the canceling unit off of another model will work on our XJs. Chacal, want to chime in on this one?

 

They're ALL the same, except for XJ700's.

The turn signals are supposed to be able to function properly with the self-canceller disconnected. Hopefully that is the cause of the problems!

 

another cancel unit installed, working fine thanks guys.

 

Hey all. New owner of an old bike. Here is the situation. The PO replaced the rear turn signals with some smaller low watt types. Since then the darn things won't flash. Fair enough replace the flasher relay with an electronic one right? OK tried that, two different part numbers. 3 prong same configuration as needed.
My question is does anyone have a part/model number for the electronic flasher relay they have succesfully used on their bike?
Thanks

 

Hi All,
I just installed one of these on my bike. I love it. It has an adjustable flash rate, it's super small, was easy to install (goes right in to the existing harness) and works with anything I have hooked up to it.


Been using it for a few weeks and it has been flawless.

I got mine of Ebay.
Here is a link if anybody else wants one.

Electronic flasher.
Peter.

 

Going from the front of the bike twoards the fuse box, I have 3 boxes. One silver box (4 pin), a black box (3 pin labled C, L and B) and another silver box. My turn signals are not working and I am trying to troubleshoot the problem. Can anyone tell me what these three boxes are?

 

Hey Peter....does this flasher still allow the use of the self-canceller feature?

 

Hey Chacal, I have not been able to get the self-canceling feature to work with anything but a stock relay on the stock turn signals.
One of these days I am going to open that little self canceling thing up and see just what makes it tick. (pun intended) All the years I spent in school learning about electronics, I gott'a be able to figure it out pretty easy.
I am sure that once I get it worked out, there will be a few thousand people wanting to know the secret of how it works.

Well.....off to the shop. You have inspired me!

Peter

 

Thanks for the photo. I was under the impresssion however that some people were using standard automobile flasher relay units that they were able to pick up at the local autoparts store. If no one has that part number then i guess its off to the auction site to find one like yours.

 

Hey Thirty! You would be correct in your impression. You can use a standard automotive 2 pin flasher relay. You lose the use of your self canceling unit but, and here is my assumption, we all ought to be conditioned to turning off our blinkers by force of habit. I don't rely upon my self-canceling option (at least not anymore, since I swapped out for the aftermarket relay), you never know when it will fail. I don't have any particular part number to recommend but you should be just fine with a standard relay, just be sure it is a two pin configuration. Why not upgrade to an electronic unit while your at it? Then you can run LEDs!

 

So instead of a three pin that plugs in a two pinner would work. I am looking into electronics flasher and the auto cancel is not a concern. I figure my truck doesn't have it why should my bike..Anyways my problem is after two different models of flasher units and neither one worked i figured i would try and see what others were using specificlly. I even attempted to to use jumpers on one of the ones i purchased to insure it wasn't just a pin mismatch issue, but no dice.
Since i am not using it, do i have to unplug the canceling unit for the system to work with the automotive flasher?

 

You do not have to disconnect the self-canceling unit. It won't harm a thing to let it sit there (unless you really want to free up some real estate). I am currently using a thermal two pin unit I sourced from Car Quest, p/n FSH552.

 

Thanks Robert. After you said that a two pin worked i picked one up at Advanced Auto parts. I knew the configuration i was looking for (what pin was load, pos , neg ) but the three pin ones i tried didnt work. So i found a two pin relay with the correct load/pos terminial configuration and sure enough good to go. I guess in the 3 pin electronic flashers that have the lamp out indicater some how even if you have the pos and load pins in the right place the electronics in it are looking for another signal on the neg terminal.
Anyways for future referance to anyone it was the house brand Part No.
EL12. Two pin electronic flasher relay from Advanced autoparts that worked for me.

 

I have tried everything to get my lower watt signals to work. I tried every flasher unit from checker (schucks). I just bought that unit the guy at the beginning of the post recommends. I sure hope it works!!!! I'm ready to get on the road.

 

Greetings Robert! Thank you for the insight regarding the two pin flasher.
I recently purchased a three pin flasher at the local Auto parts store, plugged in onto the pigtail and got no flashing at all. BTW I drive an '81 XJ650H Maxim and love it. I have had the flasher cut out on me several times in the last few years now. In each instance I unplugged the flasher, pryed off it's plastic cover and changed electrolytic capacitor inside. That fixed it for a while; however, electrolytics don't do well in hot areas like right over top of an engine. The electrolyte in them tends to dry up or leak then the capactor shorts out internally. Also, electrolytics can dry out just from sitting around too long. I just checked a 1000 uF capacitor that I recently bought from Radio Shack and it was shorted internally. I found a source for an OEM flasher but they want a lot of bucks for it. Anyhow, I would imagine its capacitor is shorted if its new old stock. Guess I head over to Pep Boys and see if I can find a two pin flasher.
Hey, good luck with your '81 XJ650H. It's a great bike!

 

The bike I just bought has the cancel unit unplugged. Not sure why the PO did that.