Crazy Gas Saving Ideas?

If all three thousand fifty two Members unanimously vote to experiment with acetone added to their fuel ...

The Official recommendation will still be ... Don't! It's potentially harmful to Carb Parts.

That makes two things we aren't recommending, now.

Acetone and Drilling your own Brake Rotors.

Experiment at your own risk

Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a Yamaha fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by an accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your Bike!

 

>That makes two things we aren't recommending, now.
>Acetone and Drilling your own Brake Rotors.
Rick you just don't know what the hell you are talking about. While you are allowed to have your opinion just like anyone else you shouldn't try to make it sound OFFICIAL and make it clear that it's just your opinion and doesn't necessarily agree with others that know more about those kinds of things than you do!
Joe Minton, who is generally regarded to be an expert, does recommend drilling the rotors and has many years more experience in this matter than you do. You can disagree if you have any valid reason to do so or any proof that it's somehow detrimental but since you don't and are just promoting ignorance you shouldn't pretend to have an Official position because you don't.

 

Alright, this has gone way to far and needs to stop. Being Rick is a public face of XJB as appointed by SnoSheriff the site admin, he has to take the conservative/safe stance in this era of gross litigation and ignorace of the stupid. While working for Harley's brake manufacterer, we did stamp the rotors with cross drilled holes which helps to reduce grooving and allows the pads to out-gas during very heavy braking. BUT, the most determined idiot can (and will) do their own in a very poor manner and probably kill themselves (Darwin's survival of the fittest) as the result of no brakes. For that very reason, I see it to be reasonable that Rick discourages the behavior, but we are all free men (and women?) and can do to our bikes as we see fit and should be responsible for the consequences.

So, can we move on here? Just because the official stance of this web site is to not add acetone to the gasoline and to not drill your own rotors doesn't mean that people can't do so at their own risk and report back in the public forums. Just think, Christopher Columbus set sail across the Atlantic Ocean almost 600 years ago knowing that there is a possibility that the Earth is flat and he might fall off the edge. While I use the analogy lightly, the engineer in me says that individual experimentation is the seed to most new discoveries and innovations, it should be noted that until a controversial proceedure has been proven reliable and effective, it should be the official stance of the "body" that the practice is not to be condoned.

Just my $0.02

 

pvtschultz, I agree. If someone wants to experiment, have fun. Try not to kill your bike (or yourself).

I think that cross-drilling rotors on your own is a damn bad idea, considering that a) you will probably not notice any improvement in every-day street riding, b) you have to be very precise about hole placement because of balance and structural issues, c) factory-drilled rotors (warranty and all) are not that expensive. If you want a noticeable brake upgrade, switch to braided-steel brake lines.

acetone in the fuel... I'll just say I tried it in 2 cars (V8 Crown Vic, 4-cyl. Grand Am, both EFI) and 2 XJ bikes. Not a cent saved, no performance increase, nothing, nada, zilch. I did not damage any rubber components, but I did not see any benefit, either. If you save gas with acetone, more power to you.

I am investigating other fuel-saving tech, like the bubbler carburetor... Gonna start with the lawn mower, though :-D

 

Ignorant?
Not me.

Stupid?
Not me!

I'm the voice of reason who tells others to ignore the bad advice they get from others.

Don't use the Public Forum for attacking anyone.
That's against the Term of Service!

 

pvtschultz, I concur.
This makes the boards unappealing, and uncomfortable.
If I wanna watch a brawl I will go to the local honkytonk!