Found our cat dead today.

Yep, cat greeted me outside this am as usual as I'm leaving for work. Stop off for "cat treats" at the grocery store on the way home and find out there's way more dog treats than cat treats. Buy something different flavored than what I have been giving the cat. Usually eats costco dry catfood and I give it a can of tuna now and then. Park the van, go inside and have something to eat. Go out and try "chops" on the roach to try and get it going better. After 3 attempts it runs at 5k without any sputtering and the plugs are clean. Sync again, and it needed it. Bring the bike outside, secure the garage and head off down the alley. See a pile of something that catches my attention. As I drive by, I realize its our cat laying in a pool of blood. I stop and investigate. He is not crushed like he got run over. He is stuck to the ground in his blood in the position like he usually sleeps. Go back home and park the bike. Return with a box to put him in. As I'm picking up the cat, down the block neighbor says "Oh, was that your cat?" with a frightened look on his face. Anyway, some piece of crap kid next door neighbor of his, 15 or so, got a bb gun and has been shooting the place up.( this is 3 doors down from me) Given that this it the cesspool chicago, I call the cops and complain about dead birds all over the place and a punk with a bb gun in the alley and nothing gets done. Anyway, I take the dead cat to the vet and they confirm, with an x-ray, he's been shot in the eye with a pellet gun and the pellet is lodged in his neck. This cat was less than 8 months old and would go up to just about anyone to be petted or to be played with. I'm just so mad right now. I called the worthless chitcaco cops on this piece of garbage plenty of times and the pusses did nothing. He was back out there 5 min later after the "heros" left shooting birds and squirrels and marching the alley with his pump up bb gun. Sure ruined my ride tonight. I'd ask what would you guys do, but I think I should just move away.....and rent my place out to sec 8 people (people who make enough to pay for things themselves but somehow got the government to pay for all but $50 a month for their housing) who have a little more melanin than these worthless pieces of crap that killed our cat.

 

we all know that killing pets is a precursor to killing people, the perp' should be dealt with now, but probably won't be, best move.
so sorry for your loss.

 

Sorry to hear it man... Ridiculous.

 

Get him on video shooting animals. Call the cops and give them that video. If they do nothing about, give it to a local new station and explain that the police were useless. You should get some sort of action from this. Hope it helps man.

 

He's a minor. Call child protective services or whatever that organization is called in IL. Tell them the child isn't being supervised - killing wild animals and pets. Here in Michigan they would hound those people to death.

I'd take the kids parents to small claims court too and recover whatever money I could.

 

call PETA.


Things like this make me livid. I have 2 dogs and a cat, and to me they're family members... if I saw someone hurt them, I'd probably do something that would put me in jail.

 

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. This may help with removing the rifle from an unresponsible gun owner.

Continue here. In Chicago, the city cops may not be tasked with handling these cases so they let it go. You may need to get in touch with some other agency to get some help.

 

Sorry to hear about your loss man. I was one of those crazy kids with a bb gun shooting everything I could see when I was a kid (25 years ago) . I think the kid is probably having some problems at home, I was...broken family, divorce..whatever..Or he just likes killing things. Makes him feel more powerful and in control of somthing. I changed when I shot a robin at 13 with a bb pistol, I ran over to the bird and instantly I felt remorse and guilt. I asked God to forgive me and kinda changed right there. Ever since I've had all sorts of animals I've rescued and I love my dogs and my rabbits. In fact last night some punk 15 or so year old kid was runnign through my yard trying to kill a bunny that lives in a burrough out back. I jumped up and yelled at the kid"what do you think you're doing?" And his reply was "I'm trying to kill that rabbit!" I told him to knock it off and beat it but a part of me realizes he probably has problems at home. I'm not givivng him a free pass or anything because I certainly didn't deserve a break. Maybe he will have remorse and stop on his own and become a kind hearted kid, or maybe you'll see him in the news one day as they dig bodies out of his basement I can't say. But for now maybe you should talk to his parents? Or parent? Or whoever raises the little slug. You may find his family disfunction is that he just plain has too much stuff and not alot of love? Either way, If the cops and his parents won't help maybe you could have a talk with him yourself? I don;t have the answers but I do know, without God in my life......not sure what would have happened. Just my 2 cents. Also some food for thought. In Chitcago bb-guns are a no no. They shoudl just be taking it away from him and charging him with unlawfully owning one. They are more classed as firearms than toys in Chicago and some of your suburbs. If the cops aren't taking it away from him it's because they really don't care. I had a few taken away as a kid...It's too bad we can't legally protect our property in most areas of America. Imagine a kid shooting a cat 25 years ago what kind of trouble,with his parents and the law, he would have been in.

 

Me 2 :x

I dont mind shooting up the place(I AM from Texas), but pets...thats a no-no. Be proactive, and get some airtime with the media. This is the best PUBLIC policy.
OTOH< Grab all the dead animals(with latex gloves) and toss them in HIS mailbox :twisted: :twisted:

 

First off I am sorry for your loss. I have a cat and would probably be in jail if that happened to me. I have several guns that make bigger holes than bbs or pellets and am not sure if I would be able to control myself. If cops do nothing I would call the ASPCA. In a lot of big cities they have their own investigation units. Best of luck to you. I hope that kid rots in juvie.

 

I would be extremely angry if someone did the same thing to my cat, or anyone elses for that matter. The youth needs an intervention given the family is not involved. Contacting the local PETA and news agency would be a very good step. CPS wouldn't be a bad idea either.

 

I wouldn't hesitate to make a complaint to the Department of Environmental Conservation Police.
They take a dim view of people indiscriminately using wildlife for target practice.

You have to get that Pellet Gun out of the hands of that crazy kid, somehow.
I'm sure that there is some Law getting broken.

The Environmental Police deal with this sort of thing every day. One hard-nosed Game Warden hearing your complaint and reviewing the evidence would put two and two together real fast and impound the gun for the protection of others.

 

Definately agree with almost everything I've heard so far here. One word of advice however. Don't put his latest target practice in the parents mailbox. Not only is it technically a federal offense but if the kid is this bad imagine how out of touch the parent (doubtfully plural) is. Last thing you want to do is escalate this with some whack-o adult. ASPCA is definately your best bet. They have their own officers (badges and not just BB guns) and should scare the ever loving cr** out of the little punk

 

So sorry to hear that. I have 2 cats...

 

You need to pull a Croc Dundee, go buy a pellet gun and use your poor little kitty as a puppet and shoot back at the kid.

 

animal cruelty should be a capitol offense.

 

I live in a very rural area in Central New York,and I am quite sure my neighbor (48 years old) shot my cat. I know that he has killed at least 2 dogs,but can't prove it. No matter how nice an area is,there is always the pontential to have a scumbag neighbor.As for your loss,I feel for you. Some people just can't see beyond themselves.

 

I'm with everyone else. I'm about to finally take responsibility for a pet (looking at puppies!), and I can say, if anyone hurt my dog on purpose, or any of the family pets I've had before, they would get the tar kicked out of them, legal or not.

Maybe that's not the best way to deal with it, but I just couldn't stand for it.

Sorry that had to happen to you.

 

Interesting that so many people are defending this that probably eat animals every day... And have so much hatred for a kid that shot a cat when they'd likely go 'hunting' for other animals... hypocrite much?

I guess some are cute and some aren't though, right?

I'm not going to get into this debate on a motorcycle forum because it's not even remotely related to this forum. Just think about your lifestyle before you get quite so irate.

I would contact the kid's parents personally, and if they didn't do anything about the issue, then I'd go to authorities about it.

Really sorry to hear about your cat though. It's horrible when a family member dies.

 

le sigh...

always one in the bunch...

 

My argument.
The cat is domesticated!
It stood no chance in an urban environment against a kid/pellet gun.
The amount of pellets, like a shotgun(but less lethal)
It must have been a painful and CRUEL

Its one thing to get hit and die, its another to torment with pain and eventual death.

I would contact PETA SPCA immediately. Game Warden is a great idea, but involves more time. The other groups will practically attack the boys family directly.
No matter what you do....you will be opening a large can of worms. Good-luck and my condolences.

 

Well, for one, I am an avid deer hunter Think of it as "free range venison". Pursuing a food animal that is as crafty in the woods as they are and following through with a precisely placed and quickly lethal shot is far different from shooting a domesticated companion animal with an often less-than-lethal weapon for no other purpose than to watch it die.

and by the way... you DID bring it up.

 

I agree that the ASPCA should be notified. I didn't know that they had Law Enforcement Power. But, if they do ... I'd be filling out the forms and having them come down on the Pellet Gun packing punk like two tons of bricks.

I also agree that the kids parents should be confronted in some way as not to escalate the situation, but to discipline the kid and maybe take-away the rifle.

I would do something that we've read about in response.
The worst thing to do would be to do nothing.

 

ASPCA FAQ's on reporting animal cruelty

In Illinois your humane officers do not have the same authority as they do in NY. Sorry for the missinformation. Your officers can conduct an investigation however and will call in local law enforcement to make arrests. The above link should answer any questions you might have regarding the process. Make sure you have a statement and copies of x-rays from the vet's office. Also see if you can get any other neighbors to go on record.

Good Luck

 

I'd call 911 with an "emergency" call of a man with a rifle pointing it at people and making terroristic threats. At the very least the cops will probably bust down his door, raid the house, and "take down" everyone inside (until they find it's a bb gun). Maybe if you're lucky the dumbass will go for the bb gun while SWAT is there.
My pet is absolutely a member of my family. There is no way in hell anyone is killing my dog and getting away with a slap on the wrist.

 

I am a hunter. I shoot birds (duck, geese) and other animals. Not for the joy of killing, which is repugnant, but for the joy of being in nature. And to eat them. They are a source of food.

A cat is not food.

The most compassionate people I know of regarding animals are typically hunters. They will follow an animal for miles when they wounded it instead of killing it. Hunters don't like to have animals be in pain and suffering needlessly.

Killers on the other hand, do so for "fun" or because they are bored. The shoot little birds with bb's or pellet's out of spite. BB's hurt, I know because my brothers used me as target practice. And I used them too, but that is for a different venue.

This little maggot who killed the cat needs to be reported. His family, such as it is, needs to be reported. If nothing is done, this little piss-ant will migrate towards bigger jollies if nothing is done. How many times have you read about sick a**holes like this where neighbors were aware that they moved over cats, stuck pins in bunnies, shoved a firecracker up a dog and lit it and now they are digging bodies out of the basement. Little bodies of children.

Sorry to be so graphic and strong worded about this. Do what you need to so that your FAMILY is protected against this savage creature. Because that is what he is right now, a savage.

 

You could pull a "Fast-Ricky" on him.

Buy a Pellet Gun exactly like his.
Late at night, shoot-out the street light and put a few holes in the door of some real Hot-heads nice new car.

After you have done the subversion ... put your gun in the trunk and bring it to your sister's house.

Go home and tell the Hot-head the story about your beloved cat.
Get out of the way and watch as the fun begins.

The fur is gonna fly.
The crap is going to hit the fan.
The cops are going to get involved, NOW!

 

Here ... do the right thing!

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pa ... lty_report

 

Rick, I didnt think ya had that kinda action in you. But I guess that senile, "I dont give a crap", attitude prevails Now. JK

Just to through it out there...lets ship that trouble-maker to MY part of the woods for some REAL hunting.
I can hear the the Deliverance banjo right now(Fade into a dream like vision with banjo in the background)
Ass.Fault is stalking kid, Ass.Fault gets a short nap in while waiting
Ass.Fault cant find said kid. Then...

Said kid is:
1)Starving in the real Hunting senario
2)Shot by a rancher as kid is tresspassing.
3)being eaten by a large feline of some kind(mt lion)
4)Scarred poopless by crickets.

As a kid we were tought to RESPECT firearms, I still remember getting slapped in the face by a hot 12gauge shell because I was standing too close to the shooter. And my 10 yo experience with a 40 S&W and 45 ACP handgun day. I learned something about myself that day. Maybe this kid will too.

 

'Compassion' and 'hunting' shouldn't even be used in the same sentence. Killing for sport (you don't NEED to eat those animals, you don't NEED to kill them to "enjoy nature") is no different whether it's a cat or a goose. That's the same mentality as saying Jews deserve the ovens or women deserve to be raped. Speciesism is just one more form of bigotry and oppression. Not to mention the ethnocentricity of your statements -- there are certainly cultures where birds are 'pets' and cats are 'food' and just as you'd be a killer in their eyes just as they are in yours.

There's no reason you can't enjoy nature without death -- every tried hiking? And honestly, if you REALLY enjoyed nature (to the point that you're willing to sacrifice a little bit for that which you enjoy) you'd know that veganism (and not supporting factory farms, etc.) does more for the environment than just about anything else you can do personally.

Like I said... I feel really badly to the OP because when an animal lives with you and you take care of it becomes a part of the family. I recently lost a furry family member as well, and know how much that sucks.

On the converse though, just because an animal isn't a part of your family doesn't make killing and eating them justified.

Like I said though. This topic isn't motorcycle related at all, and it wasn't really from the start. If you'd like to educate yourself on the topic, check out some of Gary Francione or other abolitionists' writings (http://garyfrancione.blogspot.com/). Even better, check out the movie Earthlings (you can watch it for free via google video here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=e ... =&start=10)
-- it's a bit graphic, but if the imagery bothers you and you still support it, what does that say about you?

 

In defensive of hunting::
Some species, white tail deer/hogs/and certian waterfowl are at higher than expected populations.
Hunting is encouraged to reduce the numbers, and therefore provide more access to food and vegitation

BTW We are in a drought in Texas. 100 degree days, and have not seen rain in 3 MONTHS!!!!! I hate it but I can ride all the time.

 

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OK ... lets get organized. Let's not start a "Personal Opinion's War"

Like the Poster said.
This was off-topic from the opening statement.
Let's not get this out of control.

Share your personal opinions and retorts via the PM Function, PLEASE!

 

Thanks for the comments. Went to the chicago police station today with my receipt from the vet. Told them all the details including the kids address. Got ABSULETLY NOTHING. Two tacobell cops sitting around with nothing to do. Both were "familiar" with that address. The kid was a tacobell kid, too. Made me feel like I was an idiot and I somehow did something wrong. They said go home and call 911 and when the cops get there, tell them the story, take them to the address and point out the kid. I haven't seen the kid today or heard him shooting so he probable will be hiding for a while. They told me I should know better than let a pet roam. I am trying to keep what happend to the cat quiet if you know what I mean. "Kitty just ran away...found a new home, etc." The cops in the house will be a giveaway as to what happend to the cat.

 

Forgive me, I didn't know that you knew my circumstances.

" Killing for sport (you don't NEED to eat those animals, you don't NEED to kill them to "enjoy nature") is no different whether it's a cat or a goose."

I hunt to provide food for my family. I do not hunt for sport.

Humans are omnivores. They are not herbivores.

You are entitled to your stupid lame a** opionions as I am entitled to my bigoted, oppresive specist ones.

But, how DARE you lump me in with rapists and those who commit genocide.

 

Forgive my last rant. Spelling mistakes and all.

Rick is correct.

I should have not responsed in a public forum as this.

If I offended anyone, I do offer my most humblest of apologies.

 

This is ridiculously off topic. If you care to discuss it with me, feel free to PM me. I'd be glad to help educate you on more ethical, cost-effective, and less time-consuming solutions to feeding your family.