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Found our cat dead today.

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  1. Ass.Fault

    Ass.Fault Active Member

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    My argument.
    The cat is domesticated!
    It stood no chance in an urban environment against a kid/pellet gun.
    The amount of pellets, like a shotgun(but less lethal)
    It must have been a painful and CRUEL

    Its one thing to get hit and die, its another to torment with pain and eventual death.

    I would contact PETA SPCA immediately. Game Warden is a great idea, but involves more time. The other groups will practically attack the boys family directly.
    No matter what you do....you will be opening a large can of worms. Good-luck and my condolences.
     
  2. SyracuseXJ

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    Well, for one, I am an avid deer hunter Think of it as "free range venison". Pursuing a food animal that is as crafty in the woods as they are and following through with a precisely placed and quickly lethal shot is far different from shooting a domesticated companion animal with an often less-than-lethal weapon for no other purpose than to watch it die.

    and by the way... you DID bring it up.
     
  3. RickCoMatic

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    I agree that the ASPCA should be notified. I didn't know that they had Law Enforcement Power. But, if they do ... I'd be filling out the forms and having them come down on the Pellet Gun packing punk like two tons of bricks.

    I also agree that the kids parents should be confronted in some way as not to escalate the situation, but to discipline the kid and maybe take-away the rifle.

    I would do something that we've read about in response.
    The worst thing to do would be to do nothing.
     
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    ASPCA FAQ's on reporting animal cruelty

    In Illinois your humane officers do not have the same authority as they do in NY. Sorry for the missinformation. Your officers can conduct an investigation however and will call in local law enforcement to make arrests. The above link should answer any questions you might have regarding the process. Make sure you have a statement and copies of x-rays from the vet's office. Also see if you can get any other neighbors to go on record.

    Good Luck
     
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    I'd call 911 with an "emergency" call of a man with a rifle pointing it at people and making terroristic threats. At the very least the cops will probably bust down his door, raid the house, and "take down" everyone inside (until they find it's a bb gun). Maybe if you're lucky the dumbass will go for the bb gun while SWAT is there.
    My pet is absolutely a member of my family. There is no way in hell anyone is killing my dog and getting away with a slap on the wrist.
     
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    I am a hunter. I shoot birds (duck, geese) and other animals. Not for the joy of killing, which is repugnant, but for the joy of being in nature. And to eat them. They are a source of food.

    A cat is not food.

    The most compassionate people I know of regarding animals are typically hunters. They will follow an animal for miles when they wounded it instead of killing it. Hunters don't like to have animals be in pain and suffering needlessly.

    Killers on the other hand, do so for "fun" or because they are bored. The shoot little birds with bb's or pellet's out of spite. BB's hurt, I know because my brothers used me as target practice. And I used them too, but that is for a different venue.

    This little maggot who killed the cat needs to be reported. His family, such as it is, needs to be reported. If nothing is done, this little piss-ant will migrate towards bigger jollies if nothing is done. How many times have you read about sick a**holes like this where neighbors were aware that they moved over cats, stuck pins in bunnies, shoved a firecracker up a dog and lit it and now they are digging bodies out of the basement. Little bodies of children.

    Sorry to be so graphic and strong worded about this. Do what you need to so that your FAMILY is protected against this savage creature. Because that is what he is right now, a savage.
     
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    You could pull a "Fast-Ricky" on him.

    Buy a Pellet Gun exactly like his.
    Late at night, shoot-out the street light and put a few holes in the door of some real Hot-heads nice new car.

    After you have done the subversion ... put your gun in the trunk and bring it to your sister's house.

    Go home and tell the Hot-head the story about your beloved cat.
    Get out of the way and watch as the fun begins.

    The fur is gonna fly.
    The crap is going to hit the fan.
    The cops are going to get involved, NOW!
     
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    Rick, I didnt think ya had that kinda action in you. But I guess that senile, "I dont give a crap", attitude prevails Now. JK

    Just to through it out there...lets ship that trouble-maker to MY part of the woods for some REAL hunting.
    I can hear the the Deliverance banjo right now(Fade into a dream like vision with banjo in the background)
    Ass.Fault is stalking kid, Ass.Fault gets a short nap in while waiting :)
    Ass.Fault cant find said kid. Then...

    Said kid is:
    1)Starving in the real Hunting senario
    2)Shot by a rancher as kid is tresspassing.
    3)being eaten by a large feline of some kind(mt lion) :)
    4)Scarred poopless by crickets.

    As a kid we were tought to RESPECT firearms, I still remember getting slapped in the face by a hot 12gauge shell because I was standing too close to the shooter. And my 10 yo experience with a 40 S&W and 45 ACP handgun day. I learned something about myself that day. Maybe this kid will too.
     
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    'Compassion' and 'hunting' shouldn't even be used in the same sentence. Killing for sport (you don't NEED to eat those animals, you don't NEED to kill them to "enjoy nature") is no different whether it's a cat or a goose. That's the same mentality as saying Jews deserve the ovens or women deserve to be raped. Speciesism is just one more form of bigotry and oppression. Not to mention the ethnocentricity of your statements -- there are certainly cultures where birds are 'pets' and cats are 'food' and just as you'd be a killer in their eyes just as they are in yours.

    There's no reason you can't enjoy nature without death -- every tried hiking? And honestly, if you REALLY enjoyed nature (to the point that you're willing to sacrifice a little bit for that which you enjoy) you'd know that veganism (and not supporting factory farms, etc.) does more for the environment than just about anything else you can do personally.

    Like I said... I feel really badly to the OP because when an animal lives with you and you take care of it becomes a part of the family. I recently lost a furry family member as well, and know how much that sucks.

    On the converse though, just because an animal isn't a part of your family doesn't make killing and eating them justified.

    Like I said though. This topic isn't motorcycle related at all, and it wasn't really from the start. If you'd like to educate yourself on the topic, check out some of Gary Francione or other abolitionists' writings (http://garyfrancione.blogspot.com/). Even better, check out the movie Earthlings (you can watch it for free via google video here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=e ... =&start=10)
    -- it's a bit graphic, but if the imagery bothers you and you still support it, what does that say about you?
     
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    In defensive of hunting::
    Some species, white tail deer/hogs/and certian waterfowl are at higher than expected populations.
    Hunting is encouraged to reduce the numbers, and therefore provide more access to food and vegitation

    BTW We are in a drought in Texas. 100 degree days, and have not seen rain in 3 MONTHS!!!!! I hate it but I can ride all the time.
     
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    Whistle Blowing!

    OK ... lets get organized. Let's not start a "Personal Opinion's War"

    Like the Poster said.
    This was off-topic from the opening statement.
    Let's not get this out of control.

    Share your personal opinions and retorts via the PM Function, PLEASE!
     
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    Thanks for the comments. Went to the chicago police station today with my receipt from the vet. Told them all the details including the kids address. Got ABSULETLY NOTHING. Two tacobell cops sitting around with nothing to do. Both were "familiar" with that address. The kid was a tacobell kid, too. Made me feel like I was an idiot and I somehow did something wrong. They said go home and call 911 and when the cops get there, tell them the story, take them to the address and point out the kid. I haven't seen the kid today or heard him shooting so he probable will be hiding for a while. They told me I should know better than let a pet roam. I am trying to keep what happend to the cat quiet if you know what I mean. "Kitty just ran away...found a new home, etc." The cops in the house will be a giveaway as to what happend to the cat.
     
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    Forgive me, I didn't know that you knew my circumstances.

    " Killing for sport (you don't NEED to eat those animals, you don't NEED to kill them to "enjoy nature") is no different whether it's a cat or a goose."

    I hunt to provide food for my family. I do not hunt for sport.

    Humans are omnivores. They are not herbivores.

    You are entitled to your stupid lame a** opionions as I am entitled to my bigoted, oppresive specist ones.

    But, how DARE you lump me in with rapists and those who commit genocide.
     
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    Forgive my last rant. Spelling mistakes and all.

    Rick is correct.

    I should have not responsed in a public forum as this.

    If I offended anyone, I do offer my most humblest of apologies.
     
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    This is ridiculously off topic. If you care to discuss it with me, feel free to PM me. I'd be glad to help educate you on more ethical, cost-effective, and less time-consuming solutions to feeding your family.
     
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