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1977 GS400

Discussion in 'Other Motorcycles' started by JPaganel, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. JPaganel

    JPaganel Well-Known Member

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    So, in order to rescue a friend from the ire of his wife, I have relieved him of a 1977 Suziki GS 400. Kick-only, drum brakes.

    It is a so much cheaper feeling bike than Yamahas. Thin plastic, ignition that is basically an on/off switch. Manual petcock. Airbox is so flimsy...

    Carb are Mikuni, the slides are free, so I have some good hopes for carb cleanup.

    Funny thing is, the rubber couplers from carbs to airbox have these rubber horns protruding into the box. I suppose they are velocity stacks. I'm wondering if it can run fine without box but with the stacks, if I put some filters on the ends of them. Airbox is missing it's top, so I'm thinking of redoing the intake somehow.

    Tank has some rust spots, but I don't suppose I'll know if it leaks until I put some gas in it.

    This may be a prime candidate for some sort of a cafe racer project.
     
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    '77 ? are the carbs CV or older style round slide carbs ?
     
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    CV. Not quite sure what size.
     
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    So, I ripped into the carbs. Gunk is pretty minimal, jets are cleaning up nicely. Diaphragms are solid. Needles are metal tipped, don't look worn.

    More bad found along the way - rusty seat pan, rusty battery bracket. Not too terrible, but sort of iffy. Muffler has a rust hole. Ignition lock is a generic replacement. Seat lock is gone. Tank lock is ok, but no key. The cover is removable, so no big deal.

    I think I might build a box for electronics and get rid of the airbox/battery holder setup, then try running it with just the stacks. Seen some cheap Harley tanks on Ebay. Could become an actual rat bike, built from random junk.
     
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    i think the older mikuni "vm" style carb would take to stacks and pods better than the "cv" type and the smaller sizes are kind of cheap on e-bay. but your plate is full now, keep going.
    remember it never happened without pictures :)
     
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    Well, I do have this perfectly functional set of CV-type Mikunis. Also, what makes me curious is that the stacks are factory, and so would be designed for these carbs.

    These Mikunis are pretty weird - each carb has two vent hoses, one from bowl and one from body, the main jet is in the bowl and accessible via a plug in the bowl bottom.
     
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    JPaganel Well-Known Member

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    that's going to be sweet
     
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    I am considering cobbling up something with a small automotive air cleaner and some tubing, and ditching the airbox and side panels. Don't want to do pods, everybody has pods.
     
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    Wow. Only two carbs. Everything fits in ONE egg carton! Looks like child's play! I'm kinda jealous. Very tidy bike for a 77. Keep us posted!
     
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    Yeah, this is a superbasic bike.

    There is no fusebox - just one fuse. Drum brakes front and back. Electric components are minimal, only three small pieces.
     
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    You only need three wires to make an engine run.
    -Magneto to contact breaker
    -Contact breaker to ignition coil
    -Ignition coil to plug.
    Motorcycle wiring can be so simple.
     
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    Yep, I know.

    This will be an interesting experiment in not-fanciness.
     
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    And... it runs.



    I took out the airbox, but put the air horns back on the carbs. I think they are velocity stacks and it seems to run fairly well.

    Starting blew a hole in the muffler and made a pile of rust come out of it.

    Things to get it road worthy:

    Build a battery box
    Figure out air filtration
    Get a working headlight
    Register it
     
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