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1985 XJ700 maxim throttle lock

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by omglimepie, May 25, 2017.

  1. omglimepie

    omglimepie New Member

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    Hello, First time motorcycle owner/poster here.

    I just bought this 85 xj700 maxim with 12,000 miles on it, recently my buddy and I took the carbs off gave them a nice cleaning. we took pictures of everything including throttle and choke cables. well.. after we put the carb back on the bike got the boots on and clamped we put the throttle cable where it's suppose to go thinking nothing of it but lone behold the throttle is now locked up? we can't turn the handle at all. did I maybe mess something up on the carb? He and I are quite lost at this point and are not sure what to do. when I was cleaning the carb it's self was there a chance I could have messed up the lever that pulls open the sides? they weren't stuck at all and they were all in sync while being cleaned.
     
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    Stumplifter Well-Known Member

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    Stumplifter Well-Known Member

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    Post 5 times
     
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    Stumplifter Well-Known Member

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    Like this, and on the 6th post you should be able to attach pics. Show us how the cable is attached.
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    did you hook up the cables to the correct positions ?
    is the throttle linkage stuck to the fins on the head?
     
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    Dont get
     
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    Doing this lol, ok here come some pictures.
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    for the 5 post requirement you can also post in the test zone forum
     
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    look in this thread on 2ed and 3ed photo you will see the linkage I am talking about as well as where the cables connect
    OWWW, My Eyes!

    the center most hook up "cup" is throttle the outer clamp style is choke cable
     
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    I don't know if this picture really helps much but we put the throttle cable back where it was before it got stuck. note: the choke cable works just fine.
     

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    was the throttle cable working before dissembly?
    did you remove the cable from bike? and grip?

    if you disconnect cable does it work smoothly un hooked

    cable routing is important
    can you move the linkage on carb by hand
    and did you confirm the throttle linkage was moving freely before installing carbs?
     
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    Yes it was working before we disconnected anything.
    No we did not remove the cable from the bike, Just from the carb.
    Yes it does work smoothly while un-hooked.
    Yes I was able to move the linkage on the carb by hand but only was able to do that while the carb was off. Can't get enough surface area to push it open while the carb is installed on the bike.
    Yes I can confirm it was moving freely before installing the carbs.
     
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    The cable looks to me like it's routed incorrectly and binding the cable on the sleeve.

    There is a crossmenber on the frame just above the carbs. The cable should be routed over the top of that and then down to the carb linkage.
    While that is the cabl that came on the machine, it may not be the corect cable (perhaps it's too short and that's why it was routed below the frame like that).
     
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    Would your assumption be correct even if the cable works fine while un-hooked from the carb linkage? We did not see a crossmember above the carb. The only thing above them is a slot for some electrical box that sits between the carbs and tank. We really made sure the cable is back exactly the way it was before. Could I have messed up the throttle linkage arm when I was cleaning the carbs? I cant quite find a picture of the same spot on another bike of the same model to get a reference. I guess it just seems like the linkage isnt being able to be pulled up by the cable. Thus the handle not moving while connected but moving just fine while disconnected.
     
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    When you remove the cable from the carbs; does the throttle twist easily?

    Did you remove the butterflies when you rebuilt your carbs?
    Did you break the rack?
    It is possible to reattach the butterflies and then when locking the butterfly shaft down it pulls the butterfly off-center and it binds . . . . ask me how I know. :oops: Although it shouldn't bind enough to lock things up completely.
     
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    I did not take the butterflys off.
    Yes when the cable is not attached the throttle twists easy.

    When we cleaned the carbs my friend said they looked pretty clean already so we just sprayed carb cleaner through the needles and let them dry out. Checked to see if any gunk was left and there was not. We did not do a full take apart because he said it was not needed. Rack was not broken either.
     
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    10 is throttle cable 11 is a band
    upload_2017-5-27_0-35-17.png

    number 11 in this pic
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    also lube the cable it might be dry
     
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    your cable does look a little low from the frame
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    check your inbox please

    HCP2693 OEM original THROTTLE CABLE, with curved metal tube, adjuster nut, and thumb-wheel on the throttle end of the cable, for all XJ700 non-X models. Wire length = 39-1/2".
    note cable length
     
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    Almost looks like cable not sitting all the way in the holder on carb. Cable looks to be pulling on linkage because of it. Loop on linkage that holds cable end is almost even with top of choke shaft here is Pic of carbs without cable and loop is even with underside of shaft
     

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    Cable looks tight, no visible slack something ain't right.
    You are saying everything is in order and it worked prior to being disconnected AND that you are a new owner. Did you (not your friend, not the original owner) actually ride this bike and the throttle responded correctly, or has this all been garage performance?

    2 options.

    1) deliver the bike to me
    2) contact XJ4EVER order a new cable (probably original and you will need one soon) and route as shown on the post by XJ550.

    Maybe someone here with a 700 can show how there cable looks for a comparison.
     
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    ALRIGHT, so turns out my buddy and I are just dumb as hell...the clamps on the engine side of the carbs were turned in such a way that was blocking the linkage to be pulled up from the cable. We got it figured out after taking the carb completely off, Twice. Sorry for all of this lmao. bike is up and running now. too bad it started raining right after we fixed everything :(
     
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    good to hear you found the problem
     

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