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1997 xj 600 seca 2 turn signals

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    My 1997 xj 600 turn signals have stopped working. How do I diagnose? I have a 1992 xj 600 parts bike. On my 97 the relay is on the brake side. I cant find the relay on the 92. Are they same can I swap them? Anything else I should look for?

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    Fowlers show the 1997 , with all relays in the rear tail unit
    Yamaha XJ600S DIVERSION (4BRC, 1997) 010 A 1997 ELECTRICAL 1 supplied next day (UK only) by Fowlers Parts
    shows 1992 , being under the left side cover, near the rectifier
    Yamaha XJ600S DIVERSION (4BR1, 1992) 999 A 1992 ELECTRICAL 2 supplied next day (UK only) by Fowlers Parts
    anyway, first check the indicator fuse, should be the one with brown wires on it.
    dont think relays are interchangeable, as 1997 should have hazzard flashers.
    do you have a diagram for the bike ?
    stu
     
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    Check the bulbs too.
    It's not common, but it is possible for all 4 to fail or become corroded at the sockets at about the same time (had that happen on a truck many years ago).

    After that it's time for a multimeter. The realy can be tested before sourcing a replacement, so don't get one just yet.
     
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    My bike does not have hazard flashers. Or if I does I cant find them. I have been looking at a wiring diagram that I have from a manual that I downloaded online. I took my relay off and put a wire in to wire them up straight and they didnt work. So then I unplugged 1 and put the hot wire straight to the battery and it lit up. SO its grounded but not getting any electric on the positive side. If 1 light goes out do they all go out? COuld there not be power at the blinker handlebar switch.
     
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    seems like your fault is further back in the circuit, you need to follow the circuit from the battery , to ignition switch, to fuses then to flasher relay, fuses are usually main culprit.
    i dont have a diagram for your bike, but flasher fuse is usually brown wires , on yamaha's
    if one indicator is faulty ,on one side then the good one will usually be lit constant and not flash.
    if none of your indicators are working , including the ones on the dash, then the fault is likely to be in the supply, as above.
    stu
     
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    OK so my 1997 seca 2 xj 600 has a 2 pin flasher relay. Are both those wires hot? Or is 1 a ground and 1 a hot wire. I also have found some type of switch that is wired into the lighting harness im going to probably remove it tomorrow. WHere does the lighting circuit draw power from? The circuit seems to be grounded but theres no juice on the hot wire. If I bought an aftermarket 3 pin could I install it where the 2 pin relay is and supply ground and power that way?
     
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    dont be buying anything, till you've diagnosed where the fault is, so you're not spending needlessly.
    if your flasher is a 2 pin, then they are both hot, the incomming one from the fuse , is hot when ignition is on, usually a brown wire , the outgoing one, is hot , then, when the indicator switch is switched left or right, the flasher relay breaks and then makes, usually a brown/white wire.
    do you have 12v at the flasher relay ,in and out.
    lighting circuit draws power from the lighting fuse, normally red/ yellow wires.
     
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    I removed the flasher relay and put a wire in it to bypass it and wire it straight and nothing happened. SO the indicator switch is drawing its power from what? I dont have power at the relay so I need to move to the switch. Are there only 3 wires going in to the indicator switch?
     
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    Ok I found these plugs loose and not hooked to anything. The bike has no instruments. 20210226_110003.jpg 20210226_110003.jpg 20210226_110019.jpg 20210226_110028.jpg 20210226_110036.jpg 20210226_110047.jpg 20210226_110055.jpg 20210226_110100.jpg
     
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    if you dont have power to the relay, then the problem lies further back towards the supply fuses, ignition switch , and fuses.
    is there 12v at the red wired fuse, in and out?
    is there 12v at the brown wired fuse, in and out , with ignition on.
    is there 12v at the brown wire at the flasher relay?
    try these first
     
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    I fixed it today. I unplugged the wiring harness that came from the turn signal switch to test it. It was corroded inside and just needed clenaed and plugged back in. Now I need tog et a new flasher relay because the leds blink to fast.
     
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