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A little XJ confusion

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by wbaize, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. wbaize

    wbaize Member

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    Needing a little help. About a week ago my brother told me he had a yamaha 750 that needed a little fixing, he laid it on it's side a couple of years ago and just getting over being mad at the bike. He told me that if I fix it I could ride it. So here is the confusion, the bike plate read 9/82, My brother says it a Maxim. This Maxim has a round headlight most 82's have square light. I went to the dealer with the vin number they told me it was an 83. When I look up 83's they too have square headlights and square gauges. So what the heck am I working on? I have pics but they are a little far into the breakdown but if they will help I will attach them.

    Can anyone help?
     
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    Somebody replaced the square light with a compatible round one. Common mod: Square=ugly; round=old school and just looks right (sorry)
     
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    I've got a '83 Max 750 that came with round headlight and guages.

    Post up the VIN and our resident parts guru/mathemagician, Chacal, will likely reply with your year and model info along with a link to a list of every part you can possibly need for your resto with reasonable pricing and lightning fast shipping. ;-)
     
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    Thanks Max X, I'll do that this afternoon. Kinda watchin' Ms. Dolly right now headed straight for me. "dam the lifeboats, save the XJ" So Chacal is the "man"? I need parts so it would be great to get a hold of Chacal, if I could have found everything but gauges. Seems everyone on ebake thinks they are made of gold.
     
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    9/82 would be a correct build date for a 1983 model.....the 1983 model year bikes were probably introduced (in dealer showrooms) by late 1982 calender year, and so the build date of the bike has to precede that by a month or so.......

    1983 XJ750 Maxim and Midnight Maxim models would have used a round headlight from the factory; 1983 XJ750 SECA models would have used a rectangular main headlight and a smaller, rectangular driving light....similar to (but different parts than) the 1982 XJ750 Maxim models.

    1983 XJ750 Max/MM would have used the dual round, analog gauge pod cluster similar to (but different than!) those used on the 550 Maxim and 650 Maxim models, while XJ750 Seca and 1982 XJ750 Maxim models use the rectangular "computer monitor" fancy-smanshee gauge cluster....again, similar in design but different parts.

    Even without the VIN, I'm thinking you have a 1983 model, and your full VIN reads something like this:

    JYA22R00?DAxxxxxx

    If you have a 1982 model XJ750 Maxim, your serial number will read something along these lines:

    JYA15R00?CAxxxxxx
     
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    Sir Chacal,
    here is the vin number JYA22R008DA00342. So if you could give me the specifics, color year etc that would be great. Plus it seem as if your the person to go to for parts.

    I am trying to find the gauges, tach for sure (mines electric) and the housing for both tach and speedo, mine is bent from the fall. throttle cable and turn signals with black rubber part for the back and turn signals for the front both r/l.
     
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    Hey Baize...well, it's a 1983 XJ750 Maxim, and you left one of the zero digits out of your serial number, the last six should be 000342.....which, by the way, indicates that it's the 241st one built in 1983 (serial numbers started at 000101 for the 1983 XJ750 Maxim models) which is the lowest (earliest) serial number I've seen......on the little paper tag that might still be attached to the steering tube pipe, on the left side, there should be a build date in the format MM/YY....I'll bet yours is something like 08/82, meaning an August 1982 build date............let us know.

    I'll send you a PM a little later with the info on the parts you are seeking, I should have most of those parts available........
     
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    Actually chacal I believe all of yamahas start @ 000101

    hey you have any valve clearance adjuster pads in your shop?
     
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    sheesh... Len never ceases to amaze me. Semper Fi brother. :)
     
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    Sorry I did leave off a number, but so here is the correct number, JYA22R008DA003442 and the date on the tag is 9/82. Sorry to get ya'll excited. I will try to add a picture of the tag that I just took.
     
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    Flash..........close, but no cigar! Normally, the FIRST YEAR of production of a bike model (let's say, 550 Maxim's) will have the serial number range start at 000101, but then the next year will start at a different number, say, 101001. Before the era of 17-digit VIN's, this was the only real way to "keep track" of what year a particular bike was made.....

    And yes, I have plenty of adjuster pads here! And I do believe that little XS400 uses the same ones as their bigger cousins the XJ's (so you're in luck!). Shim tool might work, also.

    Baize....so your bike was the 3341st built....and by 9/82. They were really cranking them out that year.

    Thank's Kontiki, I try.

    Here: try this for some further insights on Model ID. This is just a rough draft, so it's not fully complete, and there are some typo's, but consider this a free media preview........... :D



    FRAME AND MODEL AND VIN NUMBERS, OH MY!!!


    Okay, gather 'round friends and prepare yourself, 'cause we're about to go down the rabbit hole......

    It goes without saying that the proper and correct identification of your bike is important for a number of purposes----first and foremost, so that you can order the correct parts for it! But equally important is making sure that your title is correctly identifying your bike for registration, title, and licensing purposes, as well as for insurance registration purposes, etc.

    Plus, of course, you'd really like to make absolutely sure that you know which bike you actually have! And if you take a little bit of study time with the information below, then soon you, too, can start "code talking" about having a "1982 5N8 model" or a "750MK" and really impress the other guys at the shop with your intimate and devil-is-in-the-details knowledge about all things Yamaha......

    Okay, as is proper with any good training video, we're going to start with the big picture and then work down to the nitty-gritty details. Buckle up---there's going to be a pretty smooth take-off and then expect some bumps in the road ahead.


    Numbers, Numbers, -----Everywhere:

    In order to provide a simple basis of communication both internally (between the engineering, sales, production, marketing, and other departments within a company) and also externally (retail dealers, customers, governmental and other outside parties), vehicle manufacturers of all kinds choose to (and are required to) provide unique "shorthand" codes for each particular unit that they offer for sale. The most commonly used code is what is commonly known as a VIN or Vehicle Identification Number----a sort of "DNA fingerprint" for an individual product. Besides containing a unique serial number for an individual bike, the VIN number also identifies unique characteristics of a bike, such as the manufacturer, the model or "platform" identification, certain optional characteristics, the year of manufacture, etc.

    Before we get down to deciphering a VIN number, let's take a brief step back in time, and recognize that prior to 1981, there was no real set standard for how VIN numbers had to be assigned.....in other words, the VIN Numbers used (by any vehicle manufacturer) prior to 1981 was more-or-less an internal-use number, and could be conjured up in whatever way struck a manufacturer's fancy and served their internal needs.

    Starting in the late 1970's, with the proliferation of manufacturers, vehicle production volumes, and international sales, a solution to the "VIN dilemma" was suggested by the International Standards Organization (outlined in ISO Standard #3779, for the ultra-curious), and this standard was adopted and required to be used by all manufacturers that sold vehicles into the USA by the National Highway Traffic Saftey Administration (NHTSA) as of 1981. This is when the familiar, still-used-today 17-digit VIN number came into use, and similar structured VIN formats were also adopted by Canada, the European countries, and many other countries around the world.

    Prior to 1981, manufacturers could use a VIN number length of their choice, and Yamaha was no exception in this regard. In fact, because of the difficulty encountered with implementing this required 1981 changeover, Yamaha (and some other manufacturers) were granted a 9-month "stay of execution" for their 1981 model-year offerings, where they could still use their older (shorter) version VIN numbers to identify their products.

    Thus,1980 and early production 1981 model-year bikes use a shorter VIN number that appears on the frame of the bike (more about this later), and may also include a printed paper decal that lists a different (longer) VIN number that is an "extended" version of the original, shorter VIN number.

    Although for the purposes of absolutely, positively identifying your bike for exactly what it "is", the differences between the shorty VIN and the longer VIN are minor---although since the full 17-position VIN number contains more information, it makes the deciphering process a bit less time-consuming, but rest assured that----armed with the proper information---even a shorty VIN can be just as accurately and fully de-coded.



    What's Your Name, Little XJ, Baby What's Your Name?:

    Okay, here is how Yamaha VIN's breakdown. We're going to start with the full 17-digit VIN, and only later go backwards and look at the shorty VIN's and see how they inter-relate to each other.

    As an example, we're going to play motorcycle manufacturer and we're going to build ourselves a 1981 XJ650 Maxim VIN.

    Here is a standardized 17-position string of letters and characters that we'll use as an example:

    1234567890abcdefg

    Now, we're going to break up that 17-character string into it's component bits and pieces, like this:

    123 -45678- -9- -0- -a- -bcdefg

    It's broken up this way because each sub-group of positions (as shown above) has a specific meaning, and here they are:

    The first 3-position field ("123") is known as the WMI, or World Manufacturer Identifier code. For Yamaha, their WMI is "JYA", and thus all Yamaha motorcycle VIN numbers begin with JYA:

    JYA -45678- -9- -0- -a- -bcdefg

    For the curious, the WMI code actually has a specific meaning for each position: the first position identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured (J = Japan), the second position identifies the unique manufacturer (Y = Yamaha), and the third position identifies the vehicle type or manufacturing division (A = motorcycle).

    The next 5-position field identifies the vehicle characteristics, such a body style, engine type, model, "platform", series, etc. Since Yamaha only identified these bikes by their general MODEL ID CODE, this field is always populated by the 3-position model ID code (5N8, 5G2, 4H7, etc.) followed by two zeros (thus 5N800, 5G200, 4H700, etc.). Although Yamaha could have coded engine size, or paint color, or whatever else they wanted to into those extra two positions, they chose not to, and thus they are always filled with zeros:

    JYA4H700 -9- -0- -a- -bcdefg

    By the way, the "4H7" model ID code is for a USA-destined 1980-81 XJ650 Maxim model, just so you can follow along more easily.

    The next 1-position field---position "9" above---is always a mathematically calculated "check digit" that looks at all other positions of the full VIN number, performs a mathematical formula (muliplying, adding, and then dividing according to a pre-determined routine), and uses the remainder as the check digit. This process insures that transcribing errors and forgery efforts can be identified more easily.

    For our example, we're going to use the number 6 as the check digit:

    JYA4H7006 -0- -a- -bcdefg

    Okay, the next position---the tenth position in the VIN number (designated by the number -0- above) identifies the year of your bike. NOTE: the "year" actually refers to the MODEL YEAR of your bike, and not the year in which it was produced. Since "next year's" models normally are available in dealer showrooms sometime around September of the previous calender year, the model year of the bike and the calender year of a bike's production can differ.

    In fact, on the VIN decal on your bike, besides the 17-position VIN number, you will also find the date of the bike production in the format MM/YY, such as 10/80 (meaning October, 1980). A 10/80-built bike would be a 1981 MODEL YEAR vehicle.

    The model YEAR code in the tenth position of the VIN are as follows:

    A = 1980 B = 1981 C = 1982 D = 1983 E = 1984
    F = 1985 G = 1986 and so on......

    Since we've agreed that we're putting together a 1981 model, then of course the tenth position is---from the chart above---the letter "B":

    NOTE: we're going to confuse you now----and it won't be the last time. The year-designation letter codes listed above ONLY PERTAIN TO THE MODEL YEAR CODE USED IN THE VIN.

    There is an alternative way of identifying the year of your bike by the Yamaha marketing "model name" of your bike, and it also uses a letter code for such year-model identification purposes, BUT SUCH MODEL DESIGNATION "NAMES" USE A DIFFERENT LETTER CODE THAN WHAT IS THE VIN "YEAR" IDENTIFIER CODE!

    Okay, deep breath now, keep going, and forget about that last paragraph for now----but, do keep it in mind for later.........

    JYA4H7006B -a- -bcdefg

    The 11th position of a VIN number (-a-) is the location of the ASSEMBLY PLANT where the bike was made. All bikes in this era were produced in Japan, probably at their Iwata City production facility, which was the "A" location. Thus the 11th position of all XJ model bikes will be the letter "A":

    JYA4H7006BA -bcdefg

    And now we're down to the last 6 positions of the full VIN, and this is the unique, sequential "serial number" of each individual bike. Your own bike has a serial number that is different than every other one ever produced for your model and year bike.

    For various reasons, Yamaha assigned a range of serial numbers for each bike year and model, and these numbers did not start with the number "000001". The starting point for each serial number differs by year and model. For the 1981 XJ650 Maxim used in this example, the serial number range starts with serial number "100101". Each subsequent 1981 XJ650 Maxim model 4H7 destined for the US marketplace got the next higher serial number, thus the second bike off the assembly line was #100102, etc.

    Let's pretend that this was the 1,356th 1981 XJ650 Maxim destined for the US marketplace. So starting with the 100101 number, we add 1,356 to it, and get: 101457 ( = 1,356 + 100,101).

    So our final VIN for this particular bike is:

    JYA4H7006BA101457

    which, breaking it down into its component, meaningful parts again, is this:

    JYA -4H700- -6- -B- -A- -101457

    Now, with all of the above in mind, we can see from the above 17-position VIN that most of the information that is USEFUL is really just the MODEL ID part (4H700), the year (B), and the unique serial number portion (101457).

    In fact, in the model ID part, since positions 4 and 5 were not used by Yamaha to designate anything at all, and thus are always "00", then really only the model ID part (4H7) contain any useful infromation:

    4H7---the model identification portion, in this case meaning a 1980 or 1981 XJ650 Maxim.

    B---the model year, in this case 1981.

    101457---the unique production number ("serial number") of this particular bike.



    And Here's Where We Go Backwards:

    From the example above, we see that although a full 17-position VIN number was required of Yamaha (and everyone else) beginning in 1981, all of the useful information contained in the 17-position VIN can just as easily be captured by a "shorty" version of the VIN, just as Yamaha used prior to 1981:

    4H7-101457

    That smaller string of numbers, above, is what was considered a "VIN" number for 1981 and prior years.

    BUT WAIT!, I hear you cry.........where is that useful piece of information called the "YEAR"? (in the full "long VIN", recall that the 10th position uses a letter code to designate the model YEAR, and in our example it's the letter "B", since B = 1981).

    Good question. And here's the good answer:

    Recall this statement from above:

    "For various reasons, Yamaha assigned a range of serial numbers for each bike year and model, and these numbers did not start with the number 000001."

    Well, one of those reasons is that by assigning a defined RANGE of unique serial numbers to each year and model of bike, that unique serial number not only identifies the individual unit of production (thus completely serving the "serial number" purpose of that number), but also serves as a way of identifying the year of production, too!

    Here, as an example, for the 1980 and 1981 XJ650 Maxim (4H7) models, we have:

    1980: starting serial number of 000101
    1981: starting serial number of 100101

    Thus, if you come across this shorty VIN:

    4H7-021338

    then you know that since the "serial number" is less than the number 100,101 (which is the starting serial number for 1981 models), then it's a 1980 XJ650 Maxim.

    But when you see this shorty VIN, as from our "Build-A-Bike" example above:

    4H7-101457

    then since that serial number is greater than the "100101" starting point for 1981 model year bikes, then you automatically know that it's a 1981 (and not a 1980) "4H7" bike (an XJ650 Maxim).



    And In Confusion, Whoops, I Meant "Conclusion":

    Because the rules changed in 1981, and forced vehicle builders to use a structured, standardized 17-position format for the VIN, the 1980 and 1981 model bikes can have both the long or the short (or both) VIN numbers on the bike. With a little bit of additional information (the serial number range), you can fully "translate" the shorty VIN into the longer 17-position VIN. The longer VIN is standardized, and I suppose that's good; and it also explicitly codes the model year (in the 10th position), which is really the ONLY feature that the shorty VIN does not clearly encode.

    Now, onto the burning questions:


    Where on my bike is this long, or short, or any other VIN's?:

    I don't have the slightest idea.........

    Just kidding. The number(s) are in at least two places, and on most bikes, three locations:

    1) On the right side of the steering "neck" or tube (or "head pipe" as it is sometimes called), you'll find stamped the shorty VIN (1980 and early-1981 models) or the full 17-positions VIN (late-1981 and later years) is stamped, vertically, into the frame tube.

    2) On the left side of the steering "neck" or tube, there will be a white printed decal that will have the full 17-position VIN, along with typical boilerplate "conforms with regulations blah-blah-blah" wording. NOTE: it is on this decal, and only on this decal, that the date of your bike's manufacturer is also printed, in a MM/YY format (i.e. 10/81 = October 1981 = a 1982 model year bike).

    Note that for late-1981 year bikes and on, that the full 17-position VIN number appears on both the left-side decal and right-side stamping of the frame's steering neck tube.

    3) On the engine case, just behind or beside the clutch cover on the right side of the engine, on a small, flat machined pad that faces up (towards the sky). On XJ550 models, this pad is oriented left-to-right on the engine case, while on all other models it is oriented front-to-back.

    What will you find on this pad?

    The "shorty" VIN, as described previously. In our 1981 XJ650 Maxim, example, this flat pad would have this number stamped into it (as long as the engine is the original engine that came with the bike):

    4H7-101457

    Note that it does not matter what year your bike is; even after 1981, the number stamped onto this engine case pad is ALWAYS the "shorty" number, and never the 17-position VIN.

    From our discussion above, it is clear that if the engine in the bike is the original engine, then this number on the engine case will match, exactly, the shorty VIN on the right side of frame neck tube (1980 to early-1981 models), or, working backwards, to the model ID (4H7) and unique serial number (101457) of the longer VIN on 1982-later models.

    Also, in situations where the engine has been replaced, you can actually figure out not only what engine it is from the shorty VIN stamped onto the engine case, but you can actually work out the actual VIN number of the bike that such engine came from! All you need to know is the model ID codes (listed below), the serial number ranges (also listed below), and from that you can figure out the YEAR of the engine (and thus the bike).......giving you that "missing" bit of information that the full 17-position VIN does explicitely code for.....and then, using the "check digit" computation routine, you can actually calculate the full, complete VIN for the bike that an engine came from!

    Now that's some kinda special party trick, you gotta admit!



    Other Tidbits Of Information About VIN's:

    * In order to avoid visual confusion errors, the letters I, O, and Q are not allowed in any position of a 1981-later VIN.

    * In order to avoid visual confusion errors, the characters U, Z, and 0 (zero) are not used for the model-year designation (the 10th position); however, the letters U and Z and the number 0 can be used in any other positions of the VIN.

    * Although you didn't ask, here is how you calculate the "check digit" that is in position #9 in the VIN:

    A) All letters and characters in the long VIN are assigned a numerical value. Numbers, of course, keep their like-value (i.e. 1 = 1, 5 = 5, etc.) Letters are assigned the numerical values as follows:

    1 = A or J
    2 = B, K, or S
    3 = C, L, or T
    4 = D, M, or U
    5 = E, N, or V
    6 = F or W
    7 = G, P, or X
    8 = H or Y
    9 = R or Z


    B) A multiplication factor is assigned to each VIN character position:

    1st position: x8
    2nd position: x7
    3rd position: x6
    4th position: x5
    5th position: x4
    6th position: x3
    7th position: x2
    8th position: x10
    9th position: unknown, this is what you're trying to figure out!
    10th position: x9
    11th position: x8
    12th position: x7
    13th position: x6
    14th position: x5
    15th position: x4
    16th position: x3
    17th position: x2


    C) Okay, now convert the 17-position VIN to the numerical value as outlined in "A" above:

    JYA4H700?BA101457 (the ? is the check digit we're trying to calculate)

    becomes:

    18148700?21101457

    and multiply each position value by the multiplication factor in "B" above:

    1st position: 1 x8 = 8
    2nd position: 8 x7 = 56
    3rd position: 1 x6 = 6
    4th position: 4 x5 = 20
    5th position: 8 x4 = 32
    6th position: 7 x3 = 21
    7th position: 0 x2 = 0
    8th position: 0 x10 = 0
    9th position: unknown, this is what you're trying to figure out!
    10th position: 2 x9 = 18
    11th position: 1 x8 = 8
    12th position: 1 x7 = 7
    13th position: 0 x6 = 0
    14th position: 1 x5 = 5
    15th position: 4 x4 = 16
    16th position: 5 x3 = 15
    17th position: 7 x2 = 14


    D) Now, add up all those sums from above:

    8 + 56 + 6 + 20 + 32 + 21 + 0 + 0 + 18 + 8 + 7 + 0 + 5 + 16 + 15 + 14 = 226

    Divide the sum (226) by 11 and note what the "remainder" is:

    226 divided by 11 = 20 with a "remainder" of 6.........here, I'd forgotten basic math, too, so here's what a "remainder" is!:

    226 divided by 11 is 20.5455, but the ".5455" part is not important. What IS important is that 11 x 20 = 220, and the "remainder" is 6 (because 220 + 6 is = 226). The "remainder" is the amount "left over" when you are using just whole numbers, no decimal places or fractions allowed.........

    So the check digit for this VIN is 6:

    JYA4H7006BA101457

    By the way, if the calculations for a particular VIN leaves a "remainder" of 10 or more, then the check digit becomes the letter "X".




    Now My Brain Hurts, Please Stop.........:


    No, you're doing really good!

    And now we're going to get to the devil-details. NOW you're gonna' become a full-fledged XJ Fanatic!

    Here's a review of the YEAR CODES in the 10th position of the full 17-position VIN's:

    A = 1980 B = 1981 C = 1982 D = 1983 E = 1984
    F = 1985 G = 1986 and so on......

    Well, in the time before 1981---when there was no 17-position VIN's, and thus no "year codes" as defined above---Yamaha did have a way to "code" the year model of their bikes. Truth be told, they actually had two different ways.

    The first method, we've already reviewed: the "serial number range" method. For the people who had access to, or just flat-out memorized serial number ranges by bike model, this method works fine. Remember this?:

    "For various reasons, Yamaha assigned a range of serial numbers for each bike year and model, and these numbers did not start with the number 000001.

    1980: starting serial number of 000101
    1981: starting serial number of 100101"

    Sure you do.

    Now, since most people weren't about to memorize serial number ranges, a second method was devised by Yamaha to code the year model into an easy-to-understand code.

    In naming their bikes, Yamaha would refer to bikes by their MODEL NAME (i.e. XJ550, XJ650, etc.) and then add a---you guessed it---a LETTER CODE to the end of the model name, as such:

    XJ550H
    XJ750J
    XJ900RK

    Unfortunately, the letter codes used in this manner bear no relation to the letter codes used in the 17-position VIN schemes.

    Here's the Yamaha letter codes:

    A = 1974 B = 1975 C = 1976 D = 1977 E = 1978 F = 1979
    G = 1980 H = 1981 J = 1982 K = 1983 L = 1984 N = 1985
    S = 1986

    A couple of things to note here:

    a) Prior to 1974, no code was used to designate the model year.

    b) The letter I is skipped from the 1981-1982 sequence.

    c) The letter M is skipped from the 1984-1985 sequence.

    d) The letter O, P, Q, and R are skipped from the 1985-1986 sequence.


    So the Yamaha coding system for identifying a particular bike was the use of the MODEL NAME (XJ550, XJ750, etc.) and then adding a year "suffix" at the end:

    XJ550H is a 1981 XJ550 Maxim
    XJ750J is a 1982 XJ750 Maxim
    XJ900RK is a 1983 XJ900 Seca.

    Uh-oh........that last one is a bit confusing (there's two suffixes....R and K).

    Well, to distinguish between a regular Maxim model and a Seca (or other) model, Yamaha also used other suffixes:

    R = Seca
    L = one of couple of things....
    M = Midnight version of a Maxim, if it's an XJ750, but "L" if it's an XJ650 model, unless, of course, it's a 1982 or 1983 XJ650 model, in which case "L" refers to the Turbo Seca model, and..........

    I think the best thing we can say is that "it's better than nothing". Perhaps.

    The key point to remember is the letter codes above refer to the years. Here's the complete list of North-American MODEL NAMES:

    550's:

    XJ550H = 1981 XJ550 Maxim
    XJ550RH = 1981 XJ550 Seca

    XJ550J = 1982 XJ550 Maxim
    XJ550RJ = 1982 XJ550 Seca

    XJ550K = 1983 XJ550 Maxim
    XJ550RK = 1983 XJ550 Seca


    650's:

    XJ650G = 1980 XJ650 Maxim

    XJ650H = 1981 XJ650 Maxim
    XJ650LH = 1981 XJ650 Midnight Maxim

    XJ650J = 1982 XJ650 Maxim
    XJ650RJ = 1982 XJ650 Seca, USA
    XJ650RJC = 1982 XJ650 Seca, Canada
    XJ650LJ = 1982 XJ650 Seca Turbo

    XJ650K = 1983 XJ650 Maxim
    XJ650LK = 1983 XJ650 Seca Turbo

    XJ650L = 1984 XJ650 Maxim


    700's:

    XJ700N = 1985 XJ700 Maxim, 49-state version
    XJ700NC = 1985 XJ700 Maxim, California models
    XJ700XN = 1985 XJ700 Maxim X, 49-state version
    XJ700XNC = 1985 XJ700 Maxim X, California models


    XJ700S = 1986 XJ700 Maxim, 49-state version
    XJ700SC = 1986 XJ700 Maxim, California models
    XJ700XS = 1986 XJ700 Maxim X, 49-state version
    XJ700XSC = 1986 XJ700 Maxim X, California models

    As an aside, I've always secretly admired these 1986 "X" model codes, as the model - year designation (XS and XSC) phonetically sound out the word "excess"......and I'd congratulate Yamaha on such a clever marketing tactic, but alas, it just seems like it was a "luck of the draw" sorta thing.........


    750's:

    XJ750RH = 1981 XJ750 Seca

    XJ750J = 1982 XJ750 Maxim
    XJ750RJ = 1982 XJ750 Seca

    XJ750K = 1983 XJ750 Maxim
    XJ750MK = 1983 XJ750 Midnight Maxim
    XJ750RK = 1983 XJ750 Seca

    XJ750RL = 1984 XJ750 Seca, Canada only

    XJ750XN = 1985 XJ750 Maxim X, Canada only

    XJ750XS = 1986 XJ750 Maxim X, Canada only


    900's:

    XJ900RK = 1983 XJ900 Seca


    1100's:

    XJ1100J = 1982 XJ1100 Maxim



    But Wait! If You Order Right Now, We'll Throw In a Free Model ID Code Book..........

    Okay, from the above you can see what the Yamaha coding of the model and year was in their "marketing" descriptions of their bikes.

    But there's another way, too.....the MODEL ID CODE. You've actually already been exposed to it within the VIN section previously; now, let's get serious about these codes!

    The Model ID Codes are just another way of using a short code to substitute for a longer description. In our original example, "4H7" is a shorthand way or expressing 1980 or 1981 XJ650 Maxim model.

    Here's the list of 3-position MODEL ID CODES for North American models. Later, we'll provide a complete list of all the worldwide codes:


    550's:

    1981-83 XJ550 Maxim USA: 5K5
    1981-83 XJ550 Maxim Canada: 5K6

    1981-83 XJ550 Seca USA: 4U8
    1981-83 XJ550 Seca Canada: 4U9



    650's:

    1980-81 XJ650 Maxim USA: 4H7
    1980-81 XJ650 Maxim Canada: 4H8

    1981 XJ650 Midnight Maxim USA: 4W5
    1981 XJ650 Midnight Maxim Canada: 4W6

    1982-83 XJ650 Maxim USA: 5N8
    1982-83 XJ650 Maxim Canada: 5N9

    1982 XJ650 Seca USA : 5V2
    1982 XJ650 Seca Canada: 5V3

    1982-83 XJ650 Seca Turbo USA : 16G
    1982-83 XJ650 Seca Turbo Canada: 16H



    700's:

    1985 XJ700 Maxim USA: 1FG (49-state version)
    1985 XJ700 Maxim USA: 1JJ (California version)
    1985 XJ700 Maxim Canada: 1FH

    1985 XJ700 Maxim X USA : 1AA (49-state version)
    1985 XJ700 Maxim X USA: 1FJ (California version)


    1986 XJ700 Maxim USA: 1NH (49-state version)
    1986 XJ700 Maxim USA: 1NK (California version)
    1985 XJ700 Maxim Canada: 1NJ

    1986 XJ700 Maxim X USA: 1NW (49-state version)
    1986 XJ700 Maxim X USA: 1LT (California version)



    750's:

    1982 XJ750 Maxim USA: 15R
    1982 XJ750 Maxim Canada: 15T

    1983 XJ750 Maxim USA: 22R
    1983 XJ750 Maxim Canada: 22T

    1983 XJ750 Midnight Maxim USA: 33N
    1983 XJ750 Midnight Maxim Canada: 33U

    1981-83 XJ750 Seca USA: 5G2
    1981-83 XJ750 Seca Canada: 5H2

    1985 XJ750 Maxim X Canada: 1FL
    1986 XJ750 Maxim X Canada: 1MY



    900's:

    1983 XJ900 Seca USA: 35H
    1983 XJ900 Seca Canada: 31E



    1100's:

    1982 XJ1100 Maxim USA: 10M

    1982 XJ1100 Midnight Maxim Canada: 11G
    1983 XJ1100 Midnight Maxim Canada: 11G
    1983 XJ1100 Midnight Maxim Canada: 11G


    Let's see, we can now identify your bike in at least four different ways! Using our original "Build-A-Bike" example from above, we have:

    1) by the shorty VIN: 4H7-101457

    From the chart above, we know that the "4H7" MODEL ID designation is a 1980 or 1981 XJ650 Maxim, and from the serial number (101457), we previously learned that this serial number falls into the 1981 model year range of serial numbers.


    2) By the full VIN: JYA4H7006BA101457

    This identifies it as a XJ650 Maxim (the "4H7" part), and a 1981 model (the letter "B" in the 10th position).


    3) We can call it by the Yamaha MODEL NAME: XJ650H

    Recalling from before, the "H" suffix means it's a 1981 model.


    4) By the "street-name" common usage method:

    "I've got a 1981 XJ650 Maxim".


    Note how all of the following ways of expressing this one bike ARE ALL IDENTICAL:

    1981 XJ650 Maxim
    XJ650H
    4H7-101457
    JYA4H7006BA101457


    Suppose we wanted to tell someone that the Atlanta Braves beat the Denver Rockies by a score of 3-2. We could say:

    "The Braves beat the Rockies 3-2."
    "Atlanta defeats Denver by 3-2."
    "The final score is: The Braves 3, the Rockies 2."
    "The Braves outscored the Rockies by 3-to-2."

    and it all means the same thing.

    The same thought applies to VINs, both long and short versions, and Model Names and Model ID Codes. They all mean the same thing. They all tell the same story. The all communicate the same essential information about your bike: make, model, and year.



    Operators Are Standing By.........:

    There's one other thing you need to know, but don't really want to know (I'm already ducking for cover as I write this......). It muddies the waters, puts a fly in the ointment, a monkey-wrench in the works, etc.

    It's sad, but it's true, so here goes:

    Remember way back when, we were talking about the long 17-position VIN, and we referred to positions 4-8 as the vehicle's "characteristics" field:

    "The next 5-position field identifies the vehicle characteristics, such a body style, engine type, MODEL, "platform", series, etc. Since Yamaha only identified these era bikes by their general MODEL TYPE, this field is always populated by the 3-position model (5N8, 5G2, 4H7, etc.) followed by two zeros (thus 5N800, 5G200, 4H700, etc.). Although Yamaha could have coded engine size, or paint color, or whatever else they wanted to into those extra two positions, they chose not to, and thus they are always filled with zeros."

    Note that pesky word "platform". It has now come back to haunt us.

    For a car, a "platform" refers to the frame, and as you probably realize, many cars in the same "family" from a manufacturer all share the same basic frame, but with different body features (sheetmetal, trim, interiors, etc.) tacked on to create a different model.

    Well, the same though linda-sorta applies to motorcycles, too......and in the two-wheeled word, the "platform" is the basic motorcycle frame.

    The same frame can be used to create any number of different models. For example, think of a Midnight Maxim: it's the same as the standard Maxim model that it's based upon, but with a special
    paint scheme and other minor feature differences. HOWEVER, from a marketing point of view, it's a different "model", and thus carries a different model NAME and a different model ID code.

    But it's the same frame underneath.

    This is unlike the differences between, let's say, a 1982 XJ650 Maxim and a 1982 XJ650 Seca----although you might think that it's just minor cosmetic and feature differences (different seat, different gauge cluster, slightly different side covers and fuel tank and handlebars and other "bolt-on" items, etc.), in reality, their basic frame and structural components are different. Similar, perhaps, but quite unique. Those two bikes are not only different marketing "models" (and thus use different model NAMES and different model ID Codes), but also use different "platforms" as well.

    And the truth be known, the number that is stamped into the steering neck tube is really the FRAME ID CODE, and not the MODEL ID CODE.

    For most bikes.....meaning 99% of them in the XJ series of bikes.....the Frame ID Code and the Model ID Code are one and the same. It's why this is such a mis-understood and rarely-discussed issue.

    But it exists, and when you review the list of full bike codes below, you'll see this difference creep in every once in a while.

    And now you know why.........



    The Full Monty:

    Now, what follows is the whole, fine kettle of fish, with all of the model ID codes, frame ID codes, frame serial number ranges, and model names all rolled into one chart. With this information at hand, you can properly identify your bike (or any other XJ-series bike) that you come across with absolute certainty.


    1981 XJ550 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550H Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K5
    FRAME ID: 5K5
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RH Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U8
    FRAME ID: 4U8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550H Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K6
    FRAME ID: 5K6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RH Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U9
    FRAME ID: 4U9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 4V8
    FRAME ID: 4V8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US Seca model.


    COUNTRY: GERMANY

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 4V9
    FRAME ID: 4V9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: OCEANIA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RH
    MODEL ID CODE: 5F9
    FRAME ID: 5F9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1982 XJ550 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550J Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K5
    FRAME ID: 5K5
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 020101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RJ Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U8
    FRAME ID: 4U8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 020101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550J Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K6
    FRAME ID: 5K6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 020101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RJ Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U9
    FRAME ID: 4U9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 020101


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 26Y
    FRAME ID: 4V8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US Seca model.




    1983 XJ550 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550K Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K5
    FRAME ID: 5K5
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RK Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U8
    FRAME ID: 4U8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550K Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K6
    FRAME ID: 5K6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101

    MODEL NAME: XJ550RK Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 4U9
    FRAME ID: 4U9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 27A
    FRAME ID: 4V8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 300101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US Seca model.


    COUNTRY: OCEANIA

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 31V
    FRAME ID: 31V
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 001000


    COUNTRY: OTHER

    MODEL NAME: XJ550P
    MODEL ID CODE: 24J
    FRAME ID: 24J
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100000



    1984 XJ550 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ550
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K6
    FRAME ID: 5K6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101
    NOTES: styling the same as US Maxim model.




    1980 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650G Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4H7
    FRAME ID: 4H7
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650G Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4H8
    FRAME ID: 4H8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: JAPAN

    MODEL NAME: XJ650 Special
    MODEL ID CODE: 4L6
    FRAME ID: 4L6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101
    NOTES: styling the same as US Maxim model.


    COUNTRY: OCEANIA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 4K1
    FRAME ID: 4K1
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1981 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650H Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4H7
    FRAME ID: 4H7
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LH Midnight Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4W5
    FRAME ID: 4W5
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000001


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650H Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4H8
    FRAME ID: 4H8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LH Midnight Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 4W6
    FRAME ID: 4W6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000001


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 4K0
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US XJ650RJ Seca model.
    UK model.


    COUNTRY: JAPAN

    MODEL NAME: XJ650 Special
    MODEL ID CODE: 4L6
    FRAME ID: 4L6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101
    NOTES: styling the same as US Maxim model.


    COUNTRY: OCEANIA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 4K1
    FRAME ID: 4K1
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: OTHER

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 5K3
    FRAME ID: 5K3
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1982 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650J Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5N8
    FRAME ID: 5N8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650RJ Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 5V2
    FRAME ID: 5V2
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LJ Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 16G
    FRAME ID: 16G
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650J Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5N9
    FRAME ID: 5N9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650RJ Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 5V3
    FRAME ID: 5V3
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650RJC Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 15U
    FRAME ID: 15U
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LJ Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 16H
    FRAME ID: 16H
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 11N
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 055101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US XJ650RJ Seca model.
    UK model.

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 11T
    FRAME ID: 11T
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: GERMANY

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 11R
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101
    NOTES: styling and features the same as US XJ650RJ Seca model.


    COUNTRY: JAPAN

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 16F
    FRAME ID: 4L6
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 060101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LJ Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 17Y
    FRAME ID: 17Y
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: OCEANIA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 14R
    FRAME ID: 14R
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LJ Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 17Y
    FRAME ID: 17Y
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1983 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650K Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5N8
    FRAME ID: 5N8
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LK Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 16G
    FRAME ID: 16G
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650K Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5N9
    FRAME ID: 5N9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650RK Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 20F
    FRAME ID: 20F
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650LK Turbo Seca
    MODEL ID CODE: 16H
    FRAME ID: 16H
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 050101


    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 27F
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 070101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 27G
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 200101

    MODEL NAME: XJ650
    MODEL ID CODE: 30K
    FRAME ID: 4K0
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 300101
    NOTES: Switzerland


    COUNTRY: OTHER

    MODEL NAME: XJ650K
    MODEL ID CODE: 30U
    FRAME ID: 30U
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1984 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ650L Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 5N9
    FRAME ID: 5N9
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 100101



    1985 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: EUROPE

    MODEL NAME: XJ650POLICE Police Special
    MODEL ID CODE: 1FF
    FRAME ID: 37G
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 002101



    1988 XJ650 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: OTHER

    MODEL NAME: XJ650P88 Police Special
    MODEL ID CODE: 37G
    FRAME ID: 37G
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101




    1985 XJ700 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ700N Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 1FG
    FRAME ID: 1FG
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700NC Maxim, California only
    MODEL ID CODE: 1JJ
    FRAME ID: 1JJ
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700XN Maxim-X
    MODEL ID CODE: 1AA
    FRAME ID: 1AA
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700XNC Maxin-X, California only
    MODEL ID CODE: 1FJ
    FRAME ID: 1FJ
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ700N Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 1FH
    FRAME ID: 1FH
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1986 XJ700 MODELS:

    COUNTRY: USA

    MODEL NAME: XJ700S Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 1NH
    FRAME ID: 1NH
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700SC Maxim, California only
    MODEL ID CODE: 1NK
    FRAME ID: 1NKJ
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700XS Maxim-X
    MODEL ID CODE: 1NW
    FRAME ID: 1NW
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101

    MODEL NAME: XJ700XSC Maxin-X, California only
    MODEL ID CODE: 1LT
    FRAME ID: 1LT
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101


    COUNTRY: CANADA

    MODEL NAME: XJ700S Maxim
    MODEL ID CODE: 1NJ
    FRAME ID: 1NJ
    SERIAL NUMBER STARTS AT: 000101



    1981 XJ750 MODELS (AND OTHERS):


    COMING SOON!



    The Test:

    Here are a couple of real XJ bike VIN's (mostly culled from bikes listed for sale from eBay). Go ahead and identify them for what they really are.

    16G004078

    JYA1FH009FA000241

    JYA10M006CA004270

    5G2-107546

    JYA4U8004BA004890


    For extra credit, determine the missing VIN "check digit" in the following VIN's:

    JYA4H700?AA00638

    JYA5K500?CA027661

    JYA5V300?CA000432


    Anyone who got all the answers correct should stay after class and clean the erasers.



    CONCLUSION:

    If you're not confused yet, then you haven't studied carefully enough.
     
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    Chacal! You my friend, have wwwaaayyyy too much time on your hands! That is just amazing. You know I met a tech writer for Haynes this past weekend at my Goddaughter's birthday party? He was a most interesting and kindly fellow. I passed on our gripes, he said to post them on the website feedback page (I had no idea they had one). He also informed me that Chilton (a horrible publishing company) had purchased Haynes a few years back. This would explain why the quality of the Chiltons had improved markedly back toward the end of the nineties. He says they improved the Chiltons line and dumbed down the Haynes. But where this is all headed is that I think your research ought to be published! What do you think?
     
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    Thanks Robert.

    If the price is right, they can publish anything of mine that they wish to!
     
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    Wow, my head is still spinning, but the numbers don't lie !

    Both my Canadian bikes check out 100%

    My 1982 XJ650RJC is a 15U number 521 in the series

    My 1982 XJ750RJC is a 5H2 number 238 in the series

    What a gold mine of information !

    Thank you, Chacal
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    Plansea, spinning heads, wow, you mean like in the exorcist? Kewl.....

    Glad to be of help. Stay tuned for the exciting sequel, "The XJ That Ate The Planet".......

    Also, WBaize, I finally sent you a PM with the parts info you requested, sorry for the delay!
     
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    Wow... I'm impressed with all the specific information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Len.

    Hmmm... well this begs the question... who has the oldest running XJ and the newest XJ? My 1980 XJ650 is number 7417 meaning it was the 7316th one built (since numbers started at 101 in 1980) I am proud to say it is still mostly original and still running well with 47K miles on it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    BRAIN FIZZELING OUT.... I THINK I NEED A NAP ;)
     
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    No problem by the time I read this Hurricane Dolly will have come and gone and things will be back to normal. I just keep watching for a guy in a long beard with animals walking behind him in pairs. (just in case). Thanks YOU ARE THE MAN.
     
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    I have one of those 9 digit serial numbers, I'm not too energetic to calculate the rest of the numbers as so well laid out!
    My bike is #46 of the 1982 Canadian vintage.
     
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    My Seca is the 9th one ever made for the Canadian market, in the first year of production for the 550.
     

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