Aftermarket kickstand

Hi Guys

Noob 1982 XJ 650 Maxim owner here.

The kickstand tab has been broken, welded and broken again by previous owners.

I have never welded but I have plenty of tools.
Is there an aftermarket kickstand+mount that can be bolted to the frame that will work properly?

I have the broken off bracket and kickstand.
Is there anyone in the Baltimore/DC area with a welder and knowhow to re-attach the kickstand properly?

I find the center stand impossible to deploy without help. Is there a trick to deploying the center stand?

Any help is appreciated.

 

Can't help you with the welding, but there is definately a method to using your centre stand.

We've discussed it a few times so using the search function will bring up some good (and bad ) advice.

Basically all you need to do is... well here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDNqCMNau9A

 

lol... you'll spend less money buying one off ebay... used stock one, save yourself lots of trouble.

 

Repairing the Frame Section where the Kickstand Mount is joined to the tubular portion of the Frame is a job I don't hesitate to pay a Professional Welder to complete.

Take the TCI and the Voltage Regulator right off the Bike before the Welder strikes an arc.

Be sure to discuss how the Sidestand lines-up with the Push-rod activated Sidestand switch.

The repair is two-staged.
The Sidestand Pivot gets aligned at the right angle to move the Sidestand Activating Rod and tacked in place.
The Section of the Frame damaged by stress fracture get repaired.
The Repaired Section and and surrounding Frame area gets "Built-up" with additional welded reinforcement.

A highly-talented welder will make the repairs and leave little to be done in the area of "Dressing-up" his welds after the job is done.

 

My kickstand is unbroken.
The mounting tab is broken off of the frame.
The mounting tab has already been welded on once and broken off twice.
I am leery of having it welded on for the second time.
I was wondering if there was a more stable kickstand mount.

 

how about this.

 

Here's a site with a few more stands.

http://www.mxmegastore.com/CHR-FRGD-KIC ... 9-0655.htm

 

Hi Guys

Called around to various shops.
Almost no one wants to do the work.

A custom shop told me that they would do it but the motor has to come out of the bike to cut out the bad section and weld in a new one. That is way more work and/or expense than I want to tackle as a noob. I was hoping to mostly just ride it for a season or two and just fix the stuf that is necessary.

All of the aftermarket stands I see in the suggestions above appear made for light weight dirt bikes. Those bikes do not have a muffler outside of the frame like the YICS Yamahas have.

Has anyone tried mounting a stand to the muffler bracket?

I am looking for a solution that can be attached with clamps/nuts/bolts and not need any welding.

 

You need to have a consultation with a Professional Welder.
One that can look at the Frame and be willing to work within the constraints of not having the Engine removed from the Frame.

The right man will be able to repair your Frame and make the affected area stronger than the Frame was BEFORE is was ever damaged.

As for finding a Kickstand that you can clamp-on or attach to some other part of the bike.
Cannot be done!

The weight of the Bike and its Front-Back Center of Gravity is where the Sidestands Hinge is mounted.
The Bike might start falling-over on you if you try to mound a Sidestand elsewhere.

The Bike WILL start falling-over if the substitute Stand isn't welded-on!

 

erm. a wooden block is cheap... will work at home, but would carry and trust punk to leave it alone.. so u may have to use the centerstand whenever you travel

 

Mr. Moderator is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Welding is the only way to go. A competant welder can weld your sidestand on without removing the engine from the frame. My best guess is that the cost will be shop minimum charge, either 15 or 30 minutes.

I'm not sure where your fear of having the stand welded back on comes from but maybe it is not having control over the attachment of the stand.

I don't know if you are old enough to remember "Made in the USA" Schwinn bicycles. I took more S**t as a kid over the weight a welded on sidestand added to the overall weight of the bicycle. But you know, I never had one fail, the kicstand was never pointing toward the front of the bike instead of toward the back, and my bikes were never tossed down in a heap because the cheap-ass clamp style stand failed.

Get some recommendations for a pro welder, take the pieces and your bike to the shp and 15 minutes later you will be riding it without a care in the world about another sidestand issue.

Go in peace with a welded sidestand and be careful ou there.

 

depending on where it's broke there may be no place to add reinforcement
i went out and looked at mine and i can see why nobody wants to do it, even off the bike, then it might need heat treated, who knows how it was welded the first time
if you can get another center stand it looks like it could be modified to work as a kickstand, but that would take some welding and bending too
learn the center stand, once you get the hang of it , it's easy

 

There are some Welders who are completely Mobile.
The Weld-men have Specially-equipped Utility Trucks they drive to the job with everything they need for any weld-job brought with them.
It's always show-time for the ones that can weld anything and get called-in to save an entire bridge project from a big delay.

You just need your Old Motorcycle fixed-up nice.
Not a problem.
The more you do to prep the job will cut-down the Bill some.
It's all in the Prep.

 

The mobile guy will charge much more than if you took the bike, properly prepped, to the blacksmith.

 

Ok guys, I will give a shot at finding a welding shop that can do it.

It appears that the frame is made of a thin outside tube with a more substantial tubing/rod inside. It looks like the kickstand tab is welded to the thin outside tubing and this is what fractured.

Inspecting the kickstand and and mounting tab, it looks like the bike was seriously abused by the way the tab is bent away from true. Its not horribly bent but it sure is not straight.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

 

If you were in the Louisville KY area I could do it
Ed