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Discussion in 'XJ Modifications' started by Mad_Bohemian, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Mad_Bohemian

    Mad_Bohemian Active Member

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    Hey guys, just a quick apology/explanation if there are missing pics in any of my posts/threads. Apparently Photobucket changed their TOS that makes it 'illegal' to post pics on forums/websites unless you pay their blackmail...er.. monthly fee to 'upgrade' your account. Apparently blackmail is now an acceptable business mode to secure profits for stockholders. Sorry, I deleted my account and told them how I felt. If anyone is interested just pm me and I'll get ya what ya need/want... smh...what a bunch of bullsheet...
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    I'll be having the same problem too. It's not blackmail. Changing the terms of service has been a normal business practice for eons (literally).
     
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    [​IMG] Testing from my photobucket account.[​IMG]
     
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    Bigshankhank Active Member

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    Didn't work, time to drop photobucket apparently.
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    its not that it is black mail, it cost money for photo bucket to store the photos on the servers. Just as it costs xjbikes to store photos on the servers.
    more photos more storage space needed. external servers used in the forums can lead to lost photos in threads. when xjbikes upgraded they lost photos in some of the threads as well.

    why should photo bucket shoulder the expense for another site?
    kinda like your neighbor storing his bike in your garage. nice to let him at first but sooner or later he needs to store it in his own garage or you run out of space for your XJ's.
     
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    vashtsdaytona Active Member

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    but do you think the $400 a year minimum is reasonable?

    give me a lower price options, less bandwidth or storage or whatever, I understand they need money, but there are cheaper and free alternatives out there. however I have 3000 pics on there with links all over forums and it would be a huge pain in the butt to change all of that, and I think they know it and are taking advantage of that. not a crime but from my perspective not nice. im sure lots and lots of helpful info all of the internet is now lost. which I would be if they went out of business too. relying on others will always let you down.
     
  7. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Don't worry. The price will drop as soon as they see how few people sign up for the service. That should take about a month, with maybe another month for management to actually take action.
    Unil then there are other options. http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/free-3rd-party-image-hosting-site.1237063/

    I just downloaded my entire bucket, and will be resoring what I can, when I can. PITA, but there's other things that are far more bothersome in life.
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    no 400 is to much for the typical user. I would not be surprised if there are sites out there that used photo buck to store the photos for their web sites, just to save space in their own storage.
    maybe
    I remember when 411.com was free.
    photo bucket did not make as much money as they thought selling prints of photos to members
     
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    Mad_Bohemian Active Member

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    They generate revenue from all the ads choking up their bandwidth, plus making people pay if they don't want to see the ads. The minimum rate (that I saw) for a 'commercial ' account that would allow third party hosting was $99/year...even at that rate I think it's ridiculous. I still say that people that have been using a service for years should be 'grandfathered in, or have storage space reduced. But to suddenly start charging for what was always free... I call BS. They are generating revenue on multiple levels PRIOR to the change in TOS.. it's greed, plain and simple...
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    thats why the web site ends in com not org they are a money making enterprise. I think many of the users of photo bucket abused the system I have found a few sites that I bookmarked with the photos missing due to being posted from photo bucket. I get notices every month or so from ebay and paypal about new terms.
    socks is all I can say (it is what it is) .
     
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    MattiThundrrr Not a guru

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    Stupid businesses, always trying to make money.
     
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    A 'from now on' approach would have been better I feel. Meanwhile google images is still 'free' - isn't it?
     
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    MattiThundrrr Not a guru

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    Caveat: if something on the internet is free, it's because you are what is being sold.
    Ever wonder why the Google app requires access to your contacts, photos, and location? To serve you better, or more of you to sell?
     
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    I dont know how I could help, but I do work for a larger web design company in Iowa. Not sure if anyone wanted me to look into anything but I would be willing. www.webspecdesign.com
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    Matti wins the intenet!
     
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    He does? Great! He can talk to Photobucket and get them to offer free hosting again.
     
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    MattiThundrrr Not a guru

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    hey... i won the internet, not 400 dollars!
     
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    matti---ever talk with Len? 'Intenet' is with how ya type it with a good suthun' drawwwwl.
     
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    This is 100% true, but in my opinion not bad.

    I happily give Google my location history and such, and don't opt out of any of their data collection. Why? Because that data has zero value to me, but they use that data to fund the numerous free services I rely extensively on. Also, it's handy to be able to provide evidence as to where I was at any given time, to know where much truck is at any time, etc, should I ever have reason to do so.

    But without a doubt: you're either the customer, or the product... Or both. But if you're not paying, you're not the customer. It's important for people to understand that in today's world.
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    What a great business plan: waste your money on useless, non-profitable acquisitions and then back-hand your regular customers WITH NO NOTICE.

    Yeah, Facebook for President 2020, that's the ticket.........
     
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    If someone uses the Chrome tool or otherwise to successfully recapture images, I suggest they print the "how tos" to PDF so they can be archived on this site?
     
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    I tried the chrome add on and to my delight it does work! now does it come with spyware? I don't know. testing on a VM

    but nothing special pictures are just there
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    Of course it does. Here's the easy way to tell: is it a computer? If yes, then it's spying on you!
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, I can confirm this plugin works as of 8/18/2017 on google chrome. All images seem to be restored and accessible. I strongly urge those who are in need of a few of the great write ups to take advantage of this.
     
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    Remember when we had to pay for our time on AOL? A few hours for a few bucks.. Back when the internet was starting up, we all chose globally for "Free" internet.. As in, We'll sell a piece of our self here and there for the access to the world wide web. Well obviously this snowballed to what it is today, and now not only is photobucket still collecting data they're also charging us too. Best of both worlds for them.
     
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    Someone mentioned trying to edit the Valve Adjustment DIY to re-include the images.

    I printed that post to a PDF so I could later print to paper and use it in the garage. If we can get permission to use the original images, I can send them to whomever was going to do the editing.
     
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    Imgur.com
    It's the reddit hosting site and cost nothing. They generate revenue with ads posted to the "Front Page".
     
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    REUBEN 1985 XJ700N (NOT PICTURED) Premium Member

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    test
    <blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/2SxBY"><a href="//imgur.com/2SxBY">MRW people tell me not to look at the eclipse without eye protection</a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
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    there is a forum for testing

    Test Zone
     
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    thats been done . if you use chrome and add the photobucket extension to it you can see all the pictures that are missing.

    in big fitzs post on valve adjustment a member made a pdf and posted the link but the link seams to be broken.
     
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    yes untill imgur wants to charge for the service
     
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    Thanks for the update, was wondering what was up...
     
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    You can just re-do your forums and insert te pictures directly here. No need for PB........
     
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    The plug ins for Firefox for Photobucket Add Ons work well too. I am using it to view all the photobucket images I couldn't see with Safari.
     
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    Isn't there a limit on space for pics here..... I thinks that's why I used PB in the first place....
     
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    the servers are like any other computer storage space is limited. there are many photo hosting sites out there I guess what you have to consider is the reason you are posting photos and what it would mean if they were lost.
    I would assume that many photo hosting sites will soon follow suit and start charging as photobucket did
    http://postimages.org/ is a site that is easy to use

    you could do the photo host thing and a direct link incase the pb thing happens at least that leaves a link
     
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    The photos I post here are to document builds to help show how I did things, and to encourage/show others how they can do it as well. I have all the original photos so nothing is ever 'lost' completely. It is just frustrating when you google 'how-to' something, find someone who did it and the photos are missing! For now I post everything to a Flickr album for my VooDoo build here..
     
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    if you still have the photos you can work with the moderators they may be able to add the photos or put in the links for you to use a hosting site.
    Hoggfiddles is recreating Bigfitz posts so I do not know if they can add links to your original threads
    third option would be recreate the thread add the photos then have moderators delete old thread.
    when you recreate the thread you would also want to add/address any important posts by other members about details

    fourth option would be to make a pdf and see if that can be posted like chacal does in his web site under how to's
     

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