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Bike doesn't start in cold weather

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Joshua Olkowski, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Polock

    Polock Well-Known Member

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    see if it floats
     
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    Here is what I'm trying to tell you, the rotor may ohm out fine...UNTIL it is hot at that point you can have a break down in the windings , pulling the rotor can be a little difficult. To pull the rotor on my a Honda I threaded a front axle shaft into end of the rotor and smacked it 3 or 4 times with Thors hammer (8pound) and it popped right off , not sure about the 550 maybe similiar.
     
  3. Joshua Olkowski

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    So I may need to have a tail in between my legs moment and confirm that my charging system is indeed working properly. I apologize to all who tried to tell me in the first place. I guess it's normal that the charging system will measure lower output after it "senses" that the battery is charged but I can guarantee you, the battery is not fully charged after a full ride. However, I rode the other day with only 12.1volts to begin with and it charged back UP to 12.6. I'm curious, though, why the charging system puts out 14.5 volts on a fully charged battery during the first 20 minutes of the ride then reads lower later on when some juice has been used up? Shouldn't it be opposite? Just doesn't make sense. I've read that the charging systems on these bikes are at the best, bad so I'm just going to let it go and trust all is well. I'm guessing it's good practice to put the bike on a trickle charger every night but if I don't will I still be okay? I guess this is more of a trial and error thing. I can definitely say that the bike has never died on me nor has it never been able to turn the engine over and ever since I put new plug caps on I'm pretty sure that helped the poor starting issue. I get a nice meaty blue spark now as oppose to a faint yellow one.
    So I will move on and address my new issue. Yay!
    As mentioned before I'm getting some loud noises from the engine. It sounds rough and the chatter has increased. One thing I noticed prior to the loud noise is that when I would slow down coming to a stop light the engine would make this higher pitched sound but then turn off when I would actually stop. No it's not the break. That squeaks too but it's not bad. I have to admit I do not use the correct oil (20W-50) so I bought some and should come later in the week. My uncle and I took apart the engine about 2 months ago and afterwards the engine sounded fantastic. We also replaced the plunger that was missing from the cam chain. He made sure the cam chain was adjusted properly but I'm wondering if now that I've ridden the bike a bit it may need one more adjustment. We also adjusted the valves so all is within spec and I still get a popping noise on deacceleration but I already have the pilot screws twisted out to 3.5 turns. Any ideas what's going on. Sorry if I sound a little vague.
     
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    Thanks but I actually think my charging system is working properly. See my new post. Thanks.
     
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    I'm guessing I might have scared everyone away. In any case I have a new problem and if anybody can help that'd be great. This is my first bike and I probably shouldn't have bought this thing but I'm broke and it's all I have. Anyway...

    The engine is sounding really rough, it pops excessively on acceleration, and it can't idle.

    A couple of weeks ago I was noticing that whenever I start slowing down a higher pitched sound would come from the engine like something was dragging. Last week the engine started thumping kind of loud and now the whole bike shakes a bit at idle. It also pops excessively on acceleration and it dies at every stop light. Last night, I started the bike and it backfired on me. It kind of seems like the bike isn't working on all 4 cylinders even though it is. I changed the oil and oddly enough it kind of helped with the shaking of the bike but all the other symptoms are still there. I adjusted the valves last December and I went through the valves a while ago. It's like the whole bike is just off. I adjusted the cam chain and that didn't change a thing. Any idea what's happening?
     
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    adjusted the cam chain with pointer on the "C" ?
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Burbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    The battery is under the greatest load when starting the engine. The total charge of the battery can be depleted by as much as 10% (going below 80% of full charge is bad for a lead-acid battery) even during an easy, warm-weather startup. Charging voltage must be above the resting voltage of the battery in order for it to take a charge. The higher voltage allows for a faster charging time (though amperage plays a greater role in charging time than voltage does), and helps to reverse the chemical reactions that take place when the battery is discharged, therby increasing its useful life.

    A fuller (and beetter) explanation can be had here: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
     

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