Brake line and throttle cable length

Sorry to put this into the forum but I am gonna make my own brake line and throttle cable but I won't have access to the bike for 2 weeks and would like to get the parts ordered up. What I would need to know is:

- Length of original brakeline (including junction block) 49"?
- What size (thread) is the banjo bolt on the front caliper and Master cylinder 10mm?
- Original throttle cable length, and diameter of cable 1.2mm?

Or if anyone knows of where I could get this information it would help me out a lot. Thanks

 

first things first..we need to know for what type of bike..use your signiture feature for that info.second this was brought up in another thread and I believe bozuko (probably spelled his name wrong) posted that info in a thread he says you dont even have to crimp the banjos on these particular ones. they screw on ..correct me if you find out different..do a forum search type in the key words brake lines/banjo..then those threads with that info will pop up read till you find it.some are recent you may just take a quik look in this forum..well good luck...ridz

p.s

let me know how it comes out! cuz im going to do it also.thanx

 

Sorry its a 82 XJ650, and I know the banjos screw into the hose but they sell a few diff size threads on the caliper and MC side.

 

I just bought the replacement set from my Yamarobber - got Russell lines and fittings.

Note: I, like several others, did away with that stupid junction block -- it serves no purpose but to add a restriction to the line and make bleeding harder. Do yourself a favor and get one long line.

Having said that, you want a 41" or 42" line -- I got the 42", and with the fittings on it's a bit longer than the original - but you can't even tell looking at it.

Fittings are 10mm banjos - you want the ones with a 30° or 35° bend in them. And don't forget new sealing washers.

And last but not least - buy yourself a Speedbleeder nipple. It replaces the stock bleed nipple and has a check valve built in so no air gets back in - allows true one-man bleeding. I got one and it's SCHWEET. 8)

 

Hey Altus - I want to do this mod this summer. What did your yamarobber ding you for lines and fittings?

 

Got them at Inglis cycle here in London when they had their "customer appreciation" day - couldn't argue with 25% off catalogue orders. I've got the actual numbers at home, but at full price should be around $55 Canadian

 

That would be worth a trip to London! Thanks.

 

Should be able to order them out of the same catlogue at any bike shop over there in K-dub. Don't remember if it was Parts Canada or Moto-van, but both catalogues are available online as well.
I'll try and find the links.
[Edit] Found it - got mine from the Parts Canada catalogue which you can access throught their website - heres a direct link:
Motorcycle Vol1
The stuff I ordered is on page 842 - I got the 42" line #248080, and two 10mm 35° banjo fittings #247397.
Total cost $49.85 Canadian (plus taxes of course) - add $5 if you order a bunch of new sealing washers.

Oh - and Speedbleeders are on page 843, we need the 8mmx1.25 size, part #247944 -- they're $17 for a pair.

 

Wow - thanks for the help on this one. Parts are on order TODAY!

We should get together for ride this summer - being so close and all. I usually ride with my brother in law out that way.

 

Anytime! Always looking for a good reason to go for a ride 8)

 

ok so I have the brake lines and 35 degree banjo bolts...What do I put on the threads of the banjo where it mates to the stainless line to keep it from leaking? Teflon tape? Or something else?

 

You should have been furnished copper or aluminum washers that mate between the head of the bolt and the union as well as between the union and the threaded port your attaching everything to. If you don't have them, you need to pop out and get a set. Take the bolt with you to size them.

 

well I got new brake washers for on both sides of the banjo, but I was talking about the threaded end of the banjo into the brake line. But I found out that the fitting doesn't require any thread compound or teflon tape, as it is a tapered compression fitting.

 

Hey Altus - do you have a single caliper on your bike? Is that how you were able to eliminate the block?

 

Correct - the 80-83 650 Maxim's only had the single caliper.
Your Seca's both have dual, correct? In that case you've got two choices:
1 - stick with the stock 3 line setup, and just replace with stainless lines, meaning you need 3 lines and 6 fittings; or
2 - get a double-banjo bolt for the master cylinder and run two long lines, one to each caliper, thus 2 lines, 4 fittings, and 1 double-banjo.
I've seen it done both ways - works fine - just up to personal preference.

 

Ya - I have the duals. I'll have to think about his one.

 

so how does this speed bleeder work? I just loosen it up and pump away at the handle bars? Then tighten it up when I am finished? Seems much easier than loosening, sqeezing brake, tightening, releasing brake and repeating...Especially since the darn front brake grip is on the opposite side of the caliper!!

 

Exactly right - the speedbleeder is actually a one-way valve. You just loosen it like normal, then pump away till your done, then tighten it up -- done.

Worth every penny - I put them on every vehicle I own now.

 

excellent...I will tackle installing the brake line tonight and bleeding it out.

I cleaned up the caliper too while I had the brakes off and got rid of all that black brake dust gunk that collected on the grease of the slider pin. I noticed that I am loosing the black paint on the caliper. Oh well, maybe I'll re-paint it someday.

 

See the various threads on paint vs powdercoat. I think the general concensus is that if you're going to get it done, powdercoat it. Much tougher coating, and more resistant to brake fluid.

 

oh yeah, powdercoat all the way. But not this year. It'll be fine for a while as only a few little spots here and there are peeled off.

 

I'm in the same boat... maybe next winter I'll get the caliper & master cylinder done.