Can anyone talk me into buying a 750 over a 650?

So, I'm checking out a 650 on Wednesday (talked about in another post), but there are two 750s that are probably in better shape, much lower miles, and much closer to me.

Do the 750s have any advantages over the 650s? I guess a bit more power is the obvious answer, but a noob I am... teach me oh wise ones :roll:

 

650 Maxim or Seca? The 750s all have 2 front disk brakes (as does the 650 Seca), the 650 Maxim has 1; the 650 Seca has (IMO) the best looks but has a unique headlight; the 750 Seca has the funky remote front master cylinder and the front brake anti-dive units on the forks; both 750s have the 2 rectangular headlights and "Atari" gauge clusters. Ergonomics are about the same for any.

Lower miles doesn't mean much if not taken care of; better shape is always good, as is closer and less expensive.

 

thanks, they're all maxims...

 

SouthernSun you should go to your members options and turn on your location feature, in case someone close can help you anytime, and it's cool to see where everyone is. Also when you buy your 750 you should post it in your signature line.

Back to your challenge. It depends on three things: do you plan on taking many long >300 mile trips with the bike, what's your size 6'6" and 280lbs or 5'6" and 140lbs, do you prefer zipping through the turns or low end torque.

Now all that being said I don't really find too much difference between 650's and 750's. They are both plenty fast. They get almost the same gas mileage and weight isn't much different. The 750 will be a little easier to ride at highway speeds on the interstates & the 650 will be a little bit better at carving up the windy roads. Where you really see differences is when you step down to a 550 or up to a 900 or bigger. The 550 is a gas mileage king that still pulls plenty hard up to 90, and the 900 and bigger have excellent power throughout the power band but it helps to be decent sized to maneuver them easily.

I wouldn't base it on the motor. I would go with which bike feels right, and which bike is clearly in better shape for the $. Mileage is a consideration, but good care is as well. So many things to think about eh? You can make yourself crazy trying to figure out what the perfect bike will be. That's why I always take every opportunity to ride any bike I can-to test em all out (Goldilocks right).

 

Fuel tanks are different sizes:

650 maxim - 3.4 gal
650 seca - 5.2 gal

750 maxim - 5.0 gal
750 seca - 4.5 gal

*per Haynes manual

that being said, the 750 maxim tanks are a direct bolt on if you chose to add one to a 650 maxim

 

so the 750 seems to have some good points: 2 front disc breaks and a larger gas tank.

the 650 is lighter, slightly better mpg, and I like the look of the round headlight (and lack of "atari" console).

I thought I read that they're the same bike but with different sized motors? is that where the weight difference comes in?

Someone said they like the look of the 650 more, and I think I do too, but are there any differences in looks other than the headlight and console?

(I could put a round headlight on the 750 probably?)

Anyway, I'm mostly riding around town and still leaning towards the 650 for it's better maneuverability - esp. here in South Florida where I plan on sticking to quieter roads as much as possible. South Florida is where the crazy drivers move when they can no longer see or hear :/

 

And thanks for the help, this forum rocks!

 

You mean other than the fact you can then bore a 750 to 818cc using one of these ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130596518069?ss ... 1423.l2649

Tune all you like .. but "There's no replacement for displacement"

 

Actually, in the early 50's and 60's previous to when all the Japanese bikes were first coming out, all the American and UK bikes (Harley, BSA, Triumph ect) thought the same thing as you (displacement = power). With the introduction of the Honda's Yamaha's, Kawasaki's, and Suzuki's came small displacement engines with a short stroke. A 350 Honda short stroke could have easily kept up with a 500 large stroke Harley or Triumph.

Now the book im reading to get this information was published in the 70's and in the terms or our 80's model XJ's and newer bikes this could have changed. But just throwing that out there that displacement doesn't always = power.

 

Not saying that the whole short stroke and bore size ratio thing was invented by the Japs as it has been used previous to the 50's and 60's by American makers, but it just wasn't common practice.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Once (many yrs ago) had bought an xs1100. I've never
liked small bikes since-even regret buying my 700-just because
I love having power when I need it. And if you plan on riding two
up the diff is amazing.

And by the way I'm 5'6" so it's not a size issue.

 

you could nearly get the best of both bikes;

Get the 650 and find a 750 tank for the extra 1.6 Gallon. Go braided stainless on the front for better stopping power.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the bigger tank on the 650, but it's pretty much a direct swap.

 

do they only look different because of the headlight, gas tank, and console? am I right to think other than that they look pretty much exactly the same?

I'm supposed to check out the 650 maxim tomorrow, so I'm hoping that works out...

 

(but for 2 or 3 hundred more I could get a 750 with a third the miles and an alleged thousand dollars worth of work just done to it... so tempting, but less agile a bike I guess)...

 

Really go with your gut on this and what you can determine is the best deal and best match for you. Yes the guts are very similar, Yamaha like so many other manufacturers didn't make wholesale changes between models-too expensive. But to list every difference we would need VIN's for both.

The real time riding differences between these two sizes is not very significant. Perhaps you can hook both sellers and hold them long enough to check out and test ride both bikes (safely as possible)-if so you'll know then which one is for you. And to finally answer your post's question once and for all-NO only you can make that decision, but you have the information you need to make it.