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Clutch wont engage.

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Sjaakmaxim, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. Sjaakmaxim

    Sjaakmaxim New Member

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    Hi,

    Couple of weeks ago I posted about a rattle in my gearbox.
    As suggested I replaced the brg cyl cal roller .

    After putting it all together clutch did not engage.
    Took it apart and followed instructions according to a clutch 101 found here.

    Still no result.

    Whenever I try to engage(pull the handle 100%) the clutch it does not engage.
    It does not really want to go into 1st gear(but it goes into 1st eventually)
    it has no problem switch to 2nd or neutral. What I've read so far suggests its the clutch cable.

    I have adjusted the clutch cable
    I made sure the rod push is in the correct direction.(dont think it would fit otherwise?)
    I've aligned the dots on the pressure plate.
    I've drenched everything in oil before reassembeling.

    Any suggestions would be great.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Well-Known Member

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    Does the lever stop before it hits the handlebars?
    You may have the little lever on the clutch cover set incorrectly. Notch on case lines up with notch on shaft beside my screwdriver.
     

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    Sjaakmaxim New Member

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    Thanks for your reply.
    The notch is on the correct position.

    Seems there might be a mechanical problem..

    Anyone got a suggestion where to look at/for?
     
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    Rooster53 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Can you obtain this adjustment?
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    Not sure exactly what you mean here. Does the clutch lever feel normal and pull all the way to the grip as Toomanybikes asked, or is it all just freeplay?
    Is the bike running and lurching / stalling if you attempt to put it in gear?

    No pressure on the lever means that the clutch plates are engaged (driving), while pulling the lever back towards the rider disengages the clutch plates through cable actuation, allowing the rider to shift gears or coast while in gear.

    It is normal to not easily shift through the gears unless the bike is rolling. Rocking the back wheel while it is on the centerstand will make it easier to shift the gears.
     
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    Minimutly Well-Known Member

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    Really? Are you suggesting that the poster can't distnguish between free play and nomal pressure on the lever?
    It's pretty obvious, the lever, cable, shaft all work. The bits iside don't. Yes, clutch engaging/disengaging is confusing, but really, it either works or it doesn't. In this case it doesn't.
    Skjaak, your clutch is dragging, ie not releasing, working, engaging, whatever. Take it apart again and look for a mistake in the basket, you've done something wrong. The answer is right there, not here.
    Let us know eh?
     
  6. Colin 85 700

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    I had a similar problem with a bike I was working on, the clutch cable itself was half seized and stretching instead of pulling the clutch, undo the cable at both ends, you should be able to move the insert easily, if it is sticky at all, replace the cable and try again
    Hope this helps
     
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    Colin 85 700 Active Member

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    Side note: also measure the amount of cable that extends at the lever when pulled, and how much gets pulled in on the clutch end, if it isn't the same the cable is old and stretching as well, replace.
     
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    Sjaakmaxim New Member

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    Thnx for all the replies.

    Rooster53 is right, I was talking about disengaging.

    I shall look into your suggestions.

    @Minimutley i suppose it is an mechanical problem but having issues knowing where to look.. will take itnl apart again.
     
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    Is there anyway to test the mechincal part of the clutch without the cable?
    I've tried to pull the little lever up with a wrench and then turn the wheel but didnt do the trick either. This applies the same force on the Rod Push/Pressure Plate as pulling the cable with the handle bar right?

    Took the whole thing apart again and can't find anything out of the ordinary.

    I am absolutely clueless at the moment but I know for sure it has to be something I did when taking it apart/resasembling it.

    Could it have something to do with tightening the pressure plate? Maybe the Rod Push not putting enough pressure on the Pressure Plate to release it?

    Any clue/direction would be wonderful.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    XJ550H Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    if you disconnect the clutch cable does it slide back and forth easy.

    shifting into gears is easier if you rock the bike
     
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    Sjaakmaxim New Member

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    I am able to move the cable up and down but I do feel a bit resistance.
     
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    I know on some bikes the is a finite torque value for the nut that holds the outer basket (locks inner clutch spline metal discs) to the inner basket (locks outer clutch fingers fibre discs) if this nut is over torqued it binds the two baskets together, not allowing the clutch to function.
    With the springs removed, the inner clutch should spin free, if not it is a mismatched spacer between baskets/behind clutch or over torqued nut.
    Hope this helps
     
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    Having same issue was there a result thanks
     
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    what is


    "Couple of weeks ago I posted about a rattle in my gearbox.
    As suggested I replaced the brg cyl cal roller "
     

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